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Old 04-09-2013, 10:56 PM   #121
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Simple rear suspension overview

I made a simple MS paint illustration showing the *rough* locations of all rubber-mounted bushings and/or balljoints that need addressing as you near 150k miles. I'm beginning my stage 3. I already have four balljoints ready to go in this weekend and my differential bushings as well. Even though I have part#s listed on my page, this was really messing with my mind so I had to do additional "research" to make sure #s are correct. Some of the #s are out of order but this will give you a rough idea.

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Old 04-17-2013, 03:58 AM   #122
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I'm thinking about replacing struts (F/R) with spending as little $ as possible. Is it necessary to replace springs as well as struts, stops, mounts?
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:25 AM   #123
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I'm thinking about replacing struts (F/R) with spending as little $ as possible. Is it necessary to replace springs as well as struts, stops, mounts?
Nothing is ever necessary. Every piece you replace though adds up for a nicer riding/handling car. You will have problems with the parts you don't replace. Springs fatigue over time as well.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:21 AM   #124
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I have this clunk/pop when I driving over a bump or dip. What exactly is the issue here...?

I know its not anything else on the suspension because we replaced all the key parts. What you are describing sounds exactly like my car.
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I also have that sound on my car and upon further probing i found the Trailing bushes had failed and my cars front alignment had terribly costed me cause i had to replace the tyres too!
To check if its really the problem find a pit and inspect your car from underneath or check the tyre thread on the front tyres and if the wear is on the inside then i am definitely sure you gotta change your trailing bushes
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:47 AM   #125
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Thanks to this thread, just dropped 200 on new front suspension goodies
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:33 AM   #126
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Mr. Mango, this thread has pretty much everything I was looking for. Thank you!
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Old 05-28-2013, 02:02 AM   #127
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Great post, thoroughly enjoyed it all. Let me start by saying I recently bought a 2001 325i, an E46 I come to find out. I also found out I need to change the worn out front suspension.(119K) It has the sport suspension. Automatic, so my wife can drive it but that's another story. My son, who has access to a lift, had it up on said lift today and we've decided to change it all, control arms...probably Meyle(where can you get the ZF stuff?),inner/outer tie rods, sway bar links...

The one thing I haven't read here, and it's most likely somewhere here, is ...I want to change the struts and shocks. What struts do I get that will be compatible with sport suspension springs? I just read that springs do get soft over time so should I replace those too or leave them? Thanks for any and all input.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:14 AM   #128
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clarification on suspension (shocks/struts) only

Mango, If I just follow your list for the suspension parts (shocks/structs) do I need to buy any other parts? i.e. do I need one of the pre assembled kits? I am looking to order all through ECS and just looking for the basic replacements, but to also do a complete job as I only plan on doing this once (or maybe twice in another 80K miles).
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:58 AM   #129
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Killer thread. I had this saved in my repair section for a while now. I finally got some cash to do everything on the list including a sport cup H&R shocks and springs set.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:44 PM   #130
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Mr. Mango, this thread has pretty much everything I was looking for. Thank you!
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Killer thread. I had this saved in my repair section for a while now. I finally got some cash to do everything on the list including a sport cup H&R shocks and springs set.
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Great post, thoroughly enjoyed it all.
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I just wanted to say thank you for putting this thread together. It was a great reference point as I got all my suspension parts together.
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I just wanted to say thank you for putting this thread together. It was a great reference point as I got all my suspension parts together.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:35 PM   #131
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Just wondering, I was gonna start out replacing the front control arm bushings, does anyone know anything about the brand MTC? I know usually UUC is the way to go but they're almost 3 times the price of the MTC ones on ecs and unless it's actually worth it, I'm not spending $200+ on bushings..
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Just wondering, I was gonna start out replacing the front control arm bushings, does anyone know anything about the brand MTC? I know usually UUC is the way to go but they're almost 3 times the price of the MTC ones on ecs and unless it's actually worth it, I'm not spending $200+ on bushings..
bushings in question: http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/31126783376/ES1899439/
I personally wouldn't put those on a dump truck.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:31 PM   #133
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I personally wouldn't put those on a dump truck.
Well I just noticed the Meyle HD are about the same price but they don't seem to be polyurethane so is it really worth it to invest the $240 for the UUC ones?
I do enjoy to actually drive the car, it is by no means a "grocery getter"..
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:33 PM   #134
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if stiffness is your concern, go all metal. otherwise if you want performance on a street vehicle, a solid style like meyle is the way to go
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:12 PM   #135
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Awesome thread! Currently using this guide on my E85 Z4 =D

For Stage 3, at what age do you need to start replacing? or is 150k a good time to replace?
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Awesome thread! Currently using this guide on my E85 Z4 =D

For Stage 3, at what age do you need to start replacing? or is 150k a good time to replace?
'04 w/ < 61k on ODO.
Thanks! If you like this thread guys, request it be stickied. It's an actual complete guide that appeals to a very wide range of people that need it. Sounds good!!
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:55 AM   #137
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Mango, great guide. Would you consider 50k to be life expectancy for OEM sport suspension as well?

Mine is a 2001 with 90k miles. Just decided to keep the car for foreseeable future, did cooling system overhaul and thinking of updating suspension. FCABs and sway bushings are starting to go.


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Mango, great guide. Would you consider 50k to be life expectancy for OEM sport suspension as well?

Mine is a 2001 with 90k miles. Just decided to keep the car for foreseeable future, did cooling system overhaul and thinking of updating suspension. FCABs and sway bushings are starting to go.


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Stage 3

These require tons of labor and special tools. These are for the pickiest of picky. You'll need an E36/E46 rear axle service kit which can be found on eBay. http://www.glowcor.com/ViewCatalog.asp?ID=132

Rear end subframe and rear upper/lower, inner/outer control arms bushings and balljoints.

Rear control arms/trailing arm (except main RTAB because it's listed under stage 2)

33326775551 x2
33326771828 x2
33321092247 x2
33326770824 x2

Subframe:

33316770783 x1
33316770784 x1
33316770781 x2

Differential:

33176770788 x2
33176751808 x1

Differential Bushing Bolts:

33176760337 x2 (Two small diff bolts)
33176760336 x1 (One large diff bolt)
33306760349 x1 (Self-locking nut for large diff bolt)
Is Stage 3 easy to do when the rear subframe is down? Or still lot's of labor involved even still?
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Thanks very much Mango. I did Stage 1 and Stage 2 and enjoy driving my car again.


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