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The E46 XI was produced from 01-05 in sedan and touring body styles. Powered by either a 2.5L inline 6 in the 325xi or a 3.0L inline 6 330xi. Discuss all thing about BMW AWD E46 'Xi' here.

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Old 09-21-2013, 11:54 PM   #1
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Estimated Labor Cost?

1. Replace Front Control Arms and Control Arm Bushings
2. Replace Front End Links and Sway Bar Bushings
3. Replace Tie Rods and Boots
4. Replace Front Axle Shaft Assemblies
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:00 AM   #2
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a lot. you should do it yourself
the only real hard part is the lcab bushings because you have to drop the subframe a little.

i would also replace the ball joints, cv axle seals, and change the diff oil while you are in there. Make sure your wheel bearings are fine because it would suck to have it all apart and have to wait for bearings to arrive.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:23 AM   #3
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I would say give or take from an indy $1000. Parts will be roughly $1500+ for the good stuff. Easily DIY though, I did LCA, CAB, Tie Rods in about 3 hours. The worst part was getting the old cabs our of the carriers, In the future I would just buy new carriers.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:55 PM   #4
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Yeah, ball joints too.

Just wanted a ballpark, I know it's a lot of work but I figured it was just a case of "Oh, and while you're down there, might as well fix this and replace that.... Stuff needs to be removed anyway to get to the axle..."

I also got around $1400 for quality parts from pelicanparts... That project list feature they have is pretty sweet, also, being able to export it to xls...
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:13 PM   #5
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you should price everything at Rockauto.com. they have all the good stuff usually cheaper than everyone.

here is a 5% coupon. it can be used over and over and over till the 29th of september. 1635919913533949
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cv axles here are like 60$ each. my Cardone's spin excellent. you can get the differentialseal here too

i know i am going to get heckled but i bought the kit from deutch parts on ebay: 409$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-325X...3b153b&vxp=mtr
i got the lcabs at bimmerworld:
http://store.bimmerworld.com/powerfl...hing-p281.aspx

i called deutch parts and told them i didn't need the bushings. i also paid with a credit card not through the ebay system and got even better pricing.

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Old 09-22-2013, 06:23 PM   #6
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Only buy Lemforder for your Suspension for this car, anything else you will be replacing.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:35 PM   #7
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Only buy Lemforder for your Suspension for this car, anything else you will be replacing.
+1, stay OEM if you value your life. A ball joint failure during hard cornering is no joke.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:58 PM   #8
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I only use OEM parts. Goes without saying. Can't really skimp when it comes to such crucial components...
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:16 PM   #9
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technically,, no matter what you use your are going to have to replace it if you have it long enough.
the only part that is difficult to replace is the lcab. even if this control arm lasts only 30k miles, its freaking dirt cheap and stupid easy to replace. if i even keep this car for 30k more miles....

ps: if the components are all oem spec, its all oem spec.


dont get caught in the spending hole if you have a car thats got 120k+ miles on it. its basically worth way less than 10K$; dont be a fool and put 2k+ into the front end. upgrade the parts that count. buy cheap parts that easy to replace.

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Old 09-22-2013, 09:40 PM   #10
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Let's just agree to disagree.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:40 AM   #11
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Use powerflex fcabs.

That work will be between 6 and 10 hours plus alignment.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:40 AM   #12
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1. Replace Front Control Arms and Control Arm Bushings
2. Replace Front End Links and Sway Bar Bushings
3. Replace Tie Rods and Boots
4. Replace Front Axle Shaft Assemblies
Any real reason you are replacing the axle shaft assemblies or are you doing it for PM? Same with sway bar end links. You probably don't need to replace the bushings, they don't wear out.

+1 to what Kubica said, this is at least 6-10 hours work at a shop and count on a whole weekend to DIY if you've never done it before and/or don't have the right tools.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:25 PM   #13
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I'm doing it for PM.

Kubica I intend to purchase the prepressed Powerflex cabs from one of the forum members here.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:30 PM   #14
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There's no reason to PM any of the stuff on your list. Just wait until they die and then replace otherwise you are wasting your money.
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I'm trying to get you to do my six speed swap bro!
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:22 PM   #17
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a lot. you should do it yourself
the only real hard part is the lcab bushings because you have to drop the subframe a little.

Make sure your wheel bearings are fine because it would suck to have it all apart and have to wait for bearings to arrive.
Drop the subframe? Not necessary.

And do not attempt the wheel bearings yourself. If you have to ask about the components you mentioned, the wheel bearings are too much to tackle. If they're bad, find a good shop to replace them.
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Old 09-24-2013, 02:00 PM   #18
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Drop the subframe? Not necessary.

And do not attempt the wheel bearings yourself. If you have to ask about the components you mentioned, the wheel bearings are too much to tackle. If they're bad, find a good shop to replace them.
its in the TIS that you have to drop the subframe on an XI to get to the mount. trust me i did it, you can not remove the lcab without lowering the front subframe.

Bearings are easy to replace; There are tutorials on youtube and you can buy all the tools at harbor freight. in fact, you can even purchase pre-assembled hub and bearing kits on amazon and ebay, as well as unassembled kits.
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Old 09-24-2013, 02:03 PM   #19
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mcopenha: just saw your post on doing the bushings,, maybe it is possible. i wish i had seen your post before following the instructions.
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Old 09-24-2013, 04:52 PM   #20
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its in the TIS that you have to drop the subframe on an XI to get to the mount. trust me i did it, you can not remove the lcab without lowering the front subframe.

Bearings are easy to replace; There are tutorials on youtube and you can buy all the tools at harbor freight. in fact, you can even purchase pre-assembled hub and bearing kits on amazon and ebay, as well as unassembled kits.
I can assure you and will bet eleventy billion dollars right now that I can remove and replace the lower control arm bushing without touching a single subframe bolt.

I would not now or ever buy any parts from my car from ebay. Amazon only for oil filters and air filters.

FWIW, I still maintain that you don't need to do any of this stuff unless the parts are actually bad. They aren't PM items but are wear items.

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