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Old 10-08-2013, 01:59 PM   #21
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Start with your owners manual.
Then Google "BMW tire rotation".
If you have access to TIS do a search there.

Do a little reading.

Then decide for your self if you want to rotate them.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:20 PM   #22
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OP - Since they're asymmetrical, the outside should always remain on the outside. You're potentially thinking of flipping your tires, where you have a directional and symmetrical tire. That would require you to remove the tire, flip it around the other way, and then mount it to the car. With the PSS, you can just remove the wheels and move them to the opposite side of the car without needing to physically take the tire off the wheel.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:22 PM   #23
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Re: Tire Rotation for Michelin Pilot Super Sport

The owners manual doesn't explain the reasoning behind the recommendation.

I have googled the topic before and all that comes up is a bunch of conjecture in threads on various forums such as this one. I have not come across anything from BMW itself.

I do not have access to tis so if it is explained there, I would be grateful if you could copy and paste the text here.

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Old 10-08-2013, 02:25 PM   #24
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I driven my car since brand new; with the first 180k miles with only the original and directional Michelin Pilot Sport. It is a staggerred setup with widers rear tires than front tires. In terms of wear; the front tires wear faster on the outside of tire(ie facing street) and the rear tires wear faster on the inside; "due to the negative camber" . I usually get about 27k miles on the rear tires without rotating, but if I rotate these directional tires (swap tires by parallel L to R, R to L wheel) at past midpoint 17k miles, I can get another 6-8k miles on the rears (and the tire wear will be even). This is just everyday city and fast freeway; spirit once in a awhile. I did not notice the performance difference at all; just glad to get more usable miles on the rear. (With the front tires, same rotation, and yet they last until the second rear tires set are replaced).


Now, to the original question I asked. My setup is still staggered but with assymetric tires(ie Pliot Super Sport; after Michelin discontinued the orginal Pilot Sport ). Tachi1247 is probably right, as long as the outside marking still faces the outside after I swapped the tires. I'm taking my car into a BMW indep shop for other service next month, so they can help verify.




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I assume you are running a square setup?

If yes, then they could be rotated so that outside marking is always facing outside.

If you had directional tires, then you could only rotate front to back.

If you are staggered and directional then there is no rotating.

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Old 10-08-2013, 02:30 PM   #25
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For the cost of a mount and remount of tires a couple times during their life, you don't get that much return on life.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:44 PM   #26
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Re: Tire Rotation for Michelin Pilot Super Sport

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For the cost of a mount and remount of tires a couple times during their life, you don't get that much return on life.
This is definitely true.

Just out if curiosity, what tires are you running that are directional? Like I mentioned previously, most of the performance tires I've been looking at are all asymmetrical rather than directional.

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Personally I ran Hankook Ventus V12s and Falken FK452s, which I had to flip multiple times. Hankook R-S3s, Kumho SPTs, Yokohama AD08s, Yokohama S.Drives, etc. are all symmetrical and directional.
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