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Old 10-26-2013, 04:49 PM   #1
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Question So I was in Israel this week...

...and was on the road from the Dead Sea to Tel Aviv and drove past...



...a nuclear power station. No BS. My host simply said "we don't talk about it".

I know Israel doesn't comment on it and the Western press report Israel as "believed to have nuclear capacity" but this thing was smack bang in the middle of the desert surrounded by miles of fenced off land - but clearly visible from the road. Why doesn't the press report this fact?

(Also supposed to be going back in a few weeks - this post may scupper that! My luggage was swabbed 4 times and x-rayed three times - they sure take security seriously). Went to the West Bank and near the Gaza border, too. S hit is really serious over there...
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:10 PM   #2
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So I was in Israel this week...

Because it's not a news worthy story unless

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Old 10-26-2013, 05:21 PM   #3
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My aunt went to israel a few years ago.

Brought me back a jew hat.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:23 PM   #4
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(Also supposed to be going back in a few weeks - this post may scupper that! My luggage was swabbed 4 times and x-rayed three times - they sure take security seriously).
I recall talking to the IDF (Israeli Defense Force) about large scale computing a little over a decade ago. This was in California, mind you. They were all packed. Arrived in an armored limo (atleast it looked that way from how low it sat), and two of the eight guys had to be asked, quite politely I might add, to leave the uzis in the car. Those geezers do not muck about.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:39 PM   #5
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The issue isn't nuclear power or facilities. Even if Israel had signed the NPT they still have the right to pursue nuclear energy. Since Israel is not a signatory of the NPT they could pursue weapons technology if they wanted to. It is widely believed that they already have nuclear weapons (deployable or not I am unsure but would assume deployable). However, openly acknowledging that they have nuclear weapons would have severe regional implications.

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I am surprised that they would have them in such a volatile area.
Imagine what would happen to the area if a jumbo jet or several cruise missiles hit the site.
It odes not matter what Israel's response would be if there was a nuclear disaster and you could not inhabit the surrounding area for 1000 years.

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They are suppose to have about 100 nukes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_N...esearch_Center
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The issue isn't nuclear power or facilities. Even if Israel had signed the NPT they still have the right to pursue nuclear energy. Since Israel is not a signatory of the NPT they could pursue weapons technology if they wanted to. It is widely believed that they already have nuclear weapons (deployable or not I am unsure but would assume deployable). However, openly acknowledging that they have nuclear weapons would have severe regional implications.
So, do you think it is proper to condemn Iran and NK for pursuing nuclear technology and not signing the NPT, when Israel is doing the same thing and the rest of the world looks the other way ?
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So, do you think it is proper to condemn Iran and NK for pursuing nuclear technology and not signing the NPT, when Israel is doing the same thing and the rest of the world looks the other way ?
Iran has signed and ratified the NPT. Pursuing weapons would be a "violation". I am not concerned about Iran. I understand why they would pursue nukes. It is essentially the same reason NK does--regime survival, politics, etc.

However, none are allies of the US hence opposition. Is it fair? Doesn't matter, that is the way it is.

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Iran has signed and ratified the NPT. Pursuing weapons would be a "violation". I am not concerned about Iran. I understand why they would pursue nukes. It is essentially the same reason NK does--regime survival, politics, etc.

However, none are allies of the US hence opposition. Is it fair? Doesn't matter, that is the way it is.
I understand why they pursue them as well. They are surrounded by nations that either have them or previously pursued them.......Pakistan, China, Russia, Israel, Iraq and Syria.
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What's so surprising about it, lots of countries have it.
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How many countries that already have nukes have threatened to wipe another country off the face of the earth?

NK and Iran are loose cannons to be weary of.
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How many countries that already have nukes have threatened to wipe another country off the face of the earth?

NK and Iran are loose cannons to be weary of.
I'm weary of your posts.
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