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Old 10-29-2013, 06:16 PM   #101
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Any est. weight on this m235 or 235i?
3300lb for the stick. Auto is lighter somehow. This is fit the south Africa version, the US version will likely be heavier due to more stringent crash standards and more standard equipment.



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3300lb for the stick. Auto is lighter somehow. This is fit the south Africa version, the US version will likely be heavier due to more stringent crash standards and more standard equipment.
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The leaked South African 2 series details (here) show the manual weighing 3208 lbs and the auto 3241 lbs. Manual US weight I would expect to be 3250 - 3300lbs.

That is a light car in current terms.

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^^ this. E30 guys will tell you how heavy and disconnected an e46 is. Everything is relative.

We're also drawing comparisons to one of the best bmw models of all time so it is unreasonable to think that they will do better with every iteration. Cadillac used the e46 as the dynamic benchmark when developing the ATS.
Bingo.

From most of the comparison tests I've seen, the ATS is reported to have a more rewarding chassis than the F30. Impressive, but if that bit about using the E46 as a benchmark is true, then not surprising.
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The leaked South African 2 series details (here) show the manual weighing 3208 lbs and the auto 3241 lbs. Manual US weight I would expect to be 3250 - 3300lbs.

That is a light car in current terms.

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You are correct. I used a number from 2addicts.com where they did the conversion for me. Apparently, they screwed it up. Should have known something was up when the manual trans was heavier.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=899014

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Bingo.

From most of the comparison tests I've seen, the ATS is reported to have a more rewarding chassis than the F30. Impressive, but if that bit about using the E46 as a benchmark is true, then not surprising.
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