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Old 11-20-2013, 11:31 AM   #1
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Parts removal: PS Rack, Subframe and Oil Pan...

my flooded 330ci is in the final stages of being parted out, and someone just bought the oil pan... i do have the Bentley manual, but regardless, what a major pain in the ass this job is!

seeing how every part of the car got submerged in salt water, things are rusty to say the least.

i am simply removing parts, so i'm not worried about losing steering alignment, or reinstalling anything back in place.

with that said, i have the steering rack disconnected from the subframe, but i haven't been able to pull it off the steering column at the universal joint. it must be rust on the splines, not sure how to approach it other than banging on it with a 4 pound hammer, which hasn't helped much...

ball joint nuts are off, but they still won't come out of the knuckles. again, tried hitting hard with no luck. the wheels are still on by the way, don't ask why...

i will keep trying, maybe the penetrating oil will do the trick overnight.

question: can the car's front wheels be on ramps instead of jacking up the car properly to remove the subframe? also, i don't have the motor raised like the Bentley suggests. can the subframe still come out like that? any other tips are greatly appreciated. i've spent hours wrenching, and am not much closer to getting the oil pan off...
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:55 AM   #2
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my flooded 330ci is in the final stages of being parted out, and someone just bought the oil pan... i do have the Bentley manual, but regardless, what a major pain in the ass this job is!

seeing how every part of the car got submerged in salt water, things are rusty to say the least.

i am simply removing parts, so i'm not worried about losing steering alignment, or reinstalling anything back in place.

with that said, i have the steering rack disconnected from the subframe, but i haven't been able to pull it off the steering column at the universal joint. it must be rust on the splines, not sure how to approach it other than banging on it with a 4 pound hammer, which hasn't helped much...

ball joint nuts are off, but they still won't come out of the knuckles. again, tried hitting hard with no luck. the wheels are still on by the way, don't ask why...

i will keep trying, maybe the penetrating oil will do the trick overnight.

question: can the car's front wheels be on ramps instead of jacking up the car properly to remove the subframe? also, i don't have the motor raised like the Bentley suggests. can the subframe still come out like that? any other tips are greatly appreciated. i've spent hours wrenching, and am not much closer to getting the oil pan off...
In either scenario, the engine must be supported or it will come crashing down on you.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:00 PM   #3
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Parts removal: PS Rack, Subframe and Oil Pan...

The steering rack coupler has two connection. One on the rack splines and one on the column splines. Loosen both and hit it in the upwards direction away from the rack. It will slide off. Try putting a long screw driver or chisel on it and hit it upwards with a hammer.

For the ball joints, you need this
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-qua...tor-99849.html

Not only does this not destroy the boots like a pickle fork does, it requires absolutely no effort and gets it every single time. It's probably my favorite tool that I own.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:46 PM   #4
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thank you very much for the replies. guess i'll head to home depot and rig up an engine lift out of a 4x4...

the closest Harbor Freight is almost two hours away, unfortunately. i might just have to use a fork from Autozone.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #5
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Might be possible that Autozone has a tool very similar to what peyton is describing or even better, they may have one you can rent.

Depends on if the Autozone close to you is good about keeping tools in stock. 3 around me and only one has a decent selection of tools.

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thank you very much for the replies. guess i'll head to home depot and rig up an engine lift out of a 4x4...

the closest Harbor Freight is almost two hours away, unfortunately. i might just have to use a fork from Autozone.
Order the tool online and have it delivered to your door.
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I'd venture that no one is going to want used control arms and tie rods, especially if it's a high-mile car. So ball joint boots be damned, pound away with the pickle fork! It feels really good to beat on something occasionally, other than the wife. [ Kidding!! ].

That tool is very cool, though, when you have to remove joints without damage. I think I know what's going to be in my Christmas stocking, after dropping subtle hint to the better half!

Also, tons of penetrant (as you mentioned) and a propane torch are your friends.
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:36 PM   #8
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the steering rack with tie rods is off! a $10 fork worked just fine.

if i were now to jack up the engine (somewhere other than at the oil pan) higher than the chassis, can i proceed to removing the subframe bolts safely? and once it's off, wouldn't the engine mount provide some support, or do i absolutely have to use a lift as per the Bentley?

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Engine mounts to the subframe. That's why it calls for the engine brace.
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