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Old 01-02-2014, 01:08 PM   #21
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I think the cost off an ESS TS2+ is almost the same as the TT stage 2..
The TT stage 2 produces at the wheels what the TS2+ at the crank..
Iam between these 2 also.. i ve sent an email to Nick..
I believe the TT kit would be more fun..

Any info on the longevity of the TT kit? Anyone? How many millage before and after the kit installation?
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:50 PM   #22
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I can't provide you a comparison, but I do just want to chime in and mention (not directed at the OP or anyone in particular, but good to know up front), that at the power levels we're talking about with either kit, I can't recommend installation without a pretty comprehensive upgrade to the suspension, brakes, and the wheels/tires.
Running double the factory output or more on stock suspension and brakes is a bad idea, they simply cannot cope with the tremendous increase in power. The problem is that most people see a single number, the cost of the kit, and don't realize that the true cost is something like kit + $3-6k suspension + $800-3k brakes... A quality LSD is highly recommended as well.
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Agreed. You're also going to want gauges and maybe a new clutch ($$). Parts will need to be replaced during the install. Then there's that whole labor thing regarding the install... removal of the head for the MLS head gasket for the TT Stage 2.

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I think the cost off an ESS TS2+ is almost the same as the TT stage 2..
The TT stage 2 produces at the wheels what the TS2+ at the crank..
Iam between these 2 also.. i ve sent an email to Nick..
I believe the TT kit would be more fun..

Any info on the longevity of the TT kit? Anyone? How many millage before and after the kit installation?
Maybe I missed this, What side of your Bimmer is your steering wheel on ?

If right side, doesn't your steering shaft interfere with things like exhaust headers ? This would make a TT install difficult.
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Old 01-03-2014, 04:00 AM   #25
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Maybe I missed this, What side of your Bimmer is your steering wheel on ?

If right side, doesn't your steering shaft interfere with things like exhaust headers ? This would make a TT install difficult.
Hi Rob! Happy New Year!!
You got confused because my car was originally a 2.0L (LHD) but then i got a M54B30 swap from a RHD vert from UK.. i just have the RHD head with less bolts/studs.. compared to the LHD.. (maybe you remember something from the thread with the M52/M3 E36 headers to M54)
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Any info on the longevity of the TT kit? Anyone? How many millage before and after the kit installation?
have a 330i with 110.5k, TT Stg 1 w/ boost controller was installed around 71k. Compression check was done ~108.5k:

#1 - 180 psi
#2 - 192
#3 - 180
#4 - 185
#5 - 180
#6 - 190

This was after approximately 50k with the kit installed.

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Old 01-05-2014, 05:25 PM   #27
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have a 330i with 110.5k, TT Stg 1 w/ boost controller was installed around 79k. Compression check was done ~108.5k:

#1 - 180 psi
#2 - 192
#3 - 180
#4 - 185
#5 - 180
#6 - 190

This was after approximately 40k with the kit installed.
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Correction - The kit was installed @ 71k. So closer to 50k on the kit now and no issues to report
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38k since engine build and pseduo-TS3+ install, of which between 1/4 and 1/3 were on the track (so between 5k and 8k rpm, whichiItthink would be about a 2-3:1 compared to Street miles?).
Did a full teardown and inspection (well, my friend and retired BMW Master Mechanic did) at the 20k mark post build, and there weren't even any marks on the cam lobes! The engine was clean as a whistle and looked like the day it was firstassembled.
I ggive credit to the combination of the Swain Tech coatings and WPC treatments (the entire engine pretty much), and just as much to Redline oil. I can't recommend these enough!

I don't have any compression test numbers, my friend just said the delta was no more than 3, and when compared to first built, no more than5. I bbelieve they were around 198-201?
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What about the single O2 sensor conversion that isn't quite as smooth as OEM?
Can someone give more info on this?
I understand why it has to be done this way.. why it isn't smooth as oem?
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Can someone give more info on this?
I understand why it has to be done this way.. why it isn't smooth as oem?
It potentially can be less smooth if it's not done well, but aside from that, I don't understand the comment.

The TT kit idles just like stock, and has smooth part throttle transitioning as long as all the hardware is in good running order. If your OEM O2 sensor is bad, there's nothing any kit can do about it.
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Old 01-06-2014, 06:14 AM   #32
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A little off topic, but when comparing the two, I can't help but think of a hybrid of the two, TT setup as is, with the long runner laminova cored ESS manifold to keep that air extra dense


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It potentially can be less smooth if it's not done well, but aside from that, I don't understand the comment.

The TT kit idles just like stock, and has smooth part throttle transitioning as long as all the hardware is in good running order. If your OEM O2 sensor is bad, there's nothing any kit can do about it.
Yeah, I think they might have taken that comment from my initial review thread - what they missed was that the lack of smoothness was due to wastegate contact with the body.

The kit starts and idles BETTER then stock on MS45.

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