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Old 01-11-2014, 10:59 PM   #1
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Hello All,

As you can see I am new to E46's and to this forum. I recently purchased an 01 Laguna Seca Blue M3 and now I have a dilemna. I knew the car would be a bit of a project but the rear sub frame has torn and has some damage which I found after I bought it. I've been researching this a lot and have seen worse that seem to have been repaired. So here's where I am. The car has 137k miles and Turner Suspension. Do I attempt to have BMW "courtesy" the repair or just part the car out? When was the last time BMW stepped up on this? What can I expect to get for the drive train if I part it out?

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Old 01-14-2014, 10:13 PM   #2
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Hello All,

As you can see I am new to E46's and to this forum. I recently purchased an 01 Laguna Seca Blue M3 and now I have a dilemna. I knew the car would be a bit of a project but the rear sub frame has torn and has some damage which I found after I bought it. I've been researching this a lot and have seen worse that seem to have been repaired. So here's where I am. The car has 137k miles and Turner Suspension. Do I attempt to have BMW "courtesy" the repair or just part the car out? When was the last time BMW stepped up on this? What can I expect to get for the drive train if I part it out?

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These engines are pretty expensive. probably around 3200-6000 depending on the condition and mods.

I'm pretty sure bad subframes could be fix but that would be expensive. I sure know I wouldn't want to be doing 100mph+ knowing the one bad weld could cause a serious accident.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:20 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure that BMW no longer repairs the damaged subframes. But you may still be able to repair the car.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:43 PM   #4
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The subframe repair period has expired. You will more than likely have to foot the bill. It can be repaired. It's up to you as to what level of repair your car receives.

Parting out the car is a viable option.

The choice is yours.
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Your are a couple years past the subframe repair claim window. Its not going to happen on BMW's dime.

Did it fall within the rod bearing recall manufacture dates? If so - was the work done done?

Either repair it - or sell it to someone as a track car (who will repair it at their cost). How bad is the tear?
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Your are a couple years past the subframe repair claim window. Its not going to happen on BMW's dime.

Did it fall within the rod bearing recall manufacture dates? If so - was the work done done?

Either repair it - or sell it to someone as a track car (who will repair it at their cost). How bad is the tear?
The rod bearing recall was done within the last 18k miles or so. BMW had the car for a month. The previous owner swore to me that sub frame was repaired by the dealer at the same time but yet has not supplied any proof as promised. BMW says they did not do the sub frame but has all the other records including the rod bearing recall work. The crack is bad enough that I wont put my kids in the car. I have seen worse on the different forums and youtube which have been repaired. Generally, what does it cost to repair if I have to come out of pocket?

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I will update this post for you in a few with detail information of the repair go and search through my subframe issue thread i created a few months ago..

Pretty much long story short I got BMWNA to give me 50% good-will offer but the repair job was around 4800$ and I would have had to pay 2500$

I decided against it mostly becuase the car had other expensive issues and over 100k miles aswell as the fact that it had suspension mods and aftermarket wheels...

Keep in mind when they were doing it for free a bunch of cars were turned down due to modifications to the suspension so that was another reason to just sell it...

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The rod bearing recall was done within the last 18k miles or so. BMW had the car for a month. The previous owner swore to me that sub frame was repaired by the dealer at the same time but yet has not supplied any proof as promised. BMW says they did not do the sub frame but has all the other records including the rod bearing recall work. The crack is bad enough that I wont put my kids in the car. I have seen worse on the different forums and youtube which have been repaired. Generally, what does it cost to repair if I have to come out of pocket?

It depends on the size of the crack(s). Small ones can be done for ~$1500-$2,000 - subframe bushings extra (but should be done - $200). Large cracks beyond a point will require a new floor pan and will be more than twice that - some have been as high as $7-8,000. There is a proper way to do the repair - and shortcut methods. Make sure they inspect both the mounts, the trunk and fronts as well.
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Its a terrible time to part these cars out.

Fix it, or recoup your purchase price by selling it whole.
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I would give BMW NA a call, you have nothing to lose. If your persistent and have some luck on your side, you may save yourself some money. I had them cover 70% of my $2100 subframe repair.

At the time (Mar 2013), my car had 65k miles and lucky for me, only one previous owner who did all maintenance up until 60k at one dealership in PA. I found out the subframe was cracked when I brought my car into an Indy shop for an alignment. I called up the dealer and spoke to the service manager who led me to BMWNA. Gave them a call, set me up with a case number, and had me bring it into a dealership for inspection. Once dealer confirmed, I picked my own bmw Indy shop for repair and bmw covered 70% of the bill. Not sure if I'm the luckiest guy in the world, but I had them cover it even with all my suspension and exhaust mods...so give it a try.



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