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Old 04-02-2014, 06:37 PM   #81
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Europeans are stoopid. They keep splitting countries, while being jealous of our powa. Of course the EU is good for them, but does that have any real power?

Not even mentioning the efficiencies of larger countries.

As divided as this country is, at least we are one.
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Old 04-02-2014, 06:49 PM   #82
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LOL. Just because a sentence includes a race doesn't automatically make it racist.
I agree. The statement "race is a factor in culture" isn't racist. The statement "white people need to change their behavior" is racist. Which one is more similar to your statement?

You're lumping "white people" together, and saying that "they" should do something. And some of them are already doing that something. Some of them aren't doing it at all, some of them are doing it at the wrong times or for the wrong reasons, some of them are doing too damn much of it. And yet you make statements that assume white people are some collective group with uniformity of action (or lack thereof).

If we were discussing something like criminal behavior by a black man, and I said "the least black people can do is voice their opinion" you'd (rightfully) skewer me for A) lumping all black people together, B) insinuating that black people don't voice their opinion on the subject, and C) implying that simply because they have a similar physical appearance to the criminal, they're somehow more responsible for his acts.

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White people have a huge influence on the general population, the majority of whom is also white. What they do and what they say counts, like it or not.
"They". Again with this idea that white people are a singular organism with a single will.

Individuals make choices and take actions. Sometimes their race informs their choices and actions, sometimes it does not.

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The % question is bullsh!t and you know it!
I agree that the thinking behind the question is

So if expecting a certain % of the white population to act a certain way is bullshit, then it follows that thinking not enough white people are acting a certain way is also bullshit.

See, I do understand satire after all.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:24 PM   #83
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I agree. The statement "race is a factor in culture" isn't racist. The statement "white people need to change their behavior" is racist. Which one is more similar to your statement?
Are you saying that everyone on this forum that has said that "black people need to do something or other" is racist?

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You're lumping "white people" together, and saying that "they" should do something. And some of them are already doing that something. Some of them aren't doing it at all, some of them are doing it at the wrong times or for the wrong reasons, some of them are doing too damn much of it. And yet you make statements that assume white people are some collective group with uniformity of action (or lack thereof).
You're right. It doesn't apply only to white people.

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If we were discussing something like criminal behavior by a black man, and I said "the least black people can do is voice their opinion" you'd (rightfully) skewer me for A) lumping all black people together, B) insinuating that black people don't voice their opinion on the subject, and C) implying that simply because they have a similar physical appearance to the criminal, they're somehow more responsible for his acts.
Yes and no. But point taken.

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"They". Again with this idea that white people are a singular organism with a single will.

Individuals make choices and take actions. Sometimes their race informs their choices and actions, sometimes it does not.
I should bookmark this for future reference. I agree.

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I agree that the thinking behind the question is

So if expecting a certain % of the white population to act a certain way is bullshit, then it follows that thinking not enough white people are acting a certain way is also bullshit.

See, I do understand satire after all.
Hmm...
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I should bookmark this for future reference. I agree.
Bookmarked in my sig since yours is full. You're welcome.
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Are you saying that everyone on this forum that has said that "black people need to do something or other" is racist?
I'm open to being shown a context where a "people of X demographic should do Y" isn't a racist (or sexist or whatever) statement.

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I should bookmark this for future reference. I agree.
Hell, I should bookmark this.
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