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Old 04-08-2014, 11:55 AM   #21
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:58 AM   #22
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stanced 2001 e46 330ci - $6500 (chula vista)

184k miles

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2004 BMW 330xi Manual SedanPrice: $15,990



Mileage:70,451

Personally, I wouldn't buy either, but I'd lean toward the expensive clean example rather than the overpriced hack job.

Edit: Not attacking the car for sale in the original post - just making a point about the value of cars based on how they're treated.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:13 PM   #23
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Car with 210k miles on the OE clutch must not have been driven too hard.


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Old 04-08-2014, 12:23 PM   #24
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Apologies if it came across as bashing you. An immaculately maintained E46 330i (ZHP or not) is always worth more money than a poorly maintained car at any mileage. I don't think any of us were able to pass judgement on your car specifically, I know I was talking about the money ZHPs sell for in general terms.
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Old 04-08-2014, 01:21 PM   #25
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nah. i shouldnt have deleted my posts earlier, i referred to you, the seller, as a gentleman. the car needs some work that will exceed its value for 210k. i had the estimates done at momentum, i get a very good % off from them too.

dont play the victim, i logged in and saw your comments insulting me in the sales section randomly. i mean, what exactly do you wish ? are you demanding i buy* the car ? + i told you im looking at a 540i. the o2 sensors are dangling miserably and everything is a hack job and junkyard work.

if you did not want to deal with "kids" and "craigslist people" as you referred to me, then dont post it on craigslist

on top of that, you made ZERO mention of body damage in your craigslist ad before. it was the first thing i saw when i parked next to you. i dont know if you changed it by now. you work at vine junkyard, take it there and sell it to a co-worker.

out of respect, i did not want to hijack your sale thread, so i didnt reply to you in there. you can F off my back now, im starting to get pissed. take your car somewhere else im not interested, and fix your shitty attitude.

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Old 04-08-2014, 01:30 PM   #26
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^haha. This reminds me of an article I saw earlier on these forums on an E36 that was said to be meticulously built and massaged from the ground up. Posts and posts of goons and magazines praising him. I look at the photos and the car is a completely torn up POS hack job with missing sensors, improperly installed this and that, missing caps, torn up dashboard, fading this and that. I understand not many have a perfect car and that's fine but it's especially frustrating when someone passes their car off as excellent and massaged only to come and find missing crap, misaligned crap, wrong fasteners, abused fasteners, stripped that, peeling this, busted that, chaffed this, etc etc etc etc.

i'm not sure of OP's car. I don't know his car. But I'd have to see some photos (preferably high res) of the engine bay with great lighting and i can check it out.
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^haha. This reminds me of an article I saw earlier on these forums on an E36 that was said to be meticulously built and massaged from the ground up. Posts and posts of goons and magazines praising him. I look at the photos and the car is a completely torn up POS hack job with missing sensors, improperly installed this and that, missing caps, torn up dashboard, fading this and that. I understand not many have a perfect car and that's fine but it's especially frustrating when someone passes their car off as excellent and massaged only to come and find missing crap, misaligned crap, wrong fasteners, abused fasteners, stripped that, peeling this, busted that, chaffed this, etc etc etc etc.

i'm not sure of OP's car. I don't know his car. But I'd have to see some photos (preferably high res) of the engine bay with great lighting and i can check it out.
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nah. i shouldnt have deleted my posts earlier, i referred to you, the seller, as a gentleman. the car needs some work that will exceed its value for 210k. i had the estimates done at momentum, i get a very good % off from them too.

dont play the victim, i logged in and saw your comments insulting me in the sales section randomly. i mean, what exactly do you wish ? are you demanding i buy* the car ? + i told you im looking at a 540i. the o2 sensors are dangling miserably and everything is a hack job and junkyard work.

if you did not want to deal with "kids" and "craigslist people" as you referred to me, then dont post it on craigslist

on top of that, you made ZERO mention of body damage in your craigslist ad before. it was the first thing i saw when i parked next to you. i dont know if you changed it by now. you work at vine junkyard, take it there and sell it to a co-worker.

out of respect, i did not want to hijack your sale thread, so i didnt reply to you in there. you can F off my back now, im starting to get pissed. take your car somewhere else im not interested, and fix your shitty attitude.

So this car with 200k actually did end up being a POS huh?

Pictures can be very deceiving as a lot of the guys here were raving about how great the seller keeps his car. When it comes down to it most people here that think they maintain their car well just because they throw a few parts on them don't know the first thing about having a car that is "properly/meticulously maintained". Lol.


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Old 04-08-2014, 03:25 PM   #29
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Nice to know that your zhp lasted to 200k. GLWS

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Old 04-09-2014, 09:50 AM   #30
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I notice some posts (claims) by the owner of that car have been deleted. What a shame. People need to be held by their words. By covering stuff like this up, a disservice is being done to the community. Owner is allowed to sell his car, but one shouldn't be allowed to be glaringly dishonest about it.
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i thought this forum had mature members. lets act like it. business is business, it doesnt need to involve the forum.

TO MAKE IT CLEAR im not siding with anyone, just giving my .02
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i thought this forum had mature members. lets act like it. business is business, it doesnt need to involve the forum.

TO MAKE IT CLEAR im not siding with anyone, just giving my .02

I agree but when you post your business on a public forum all that goes out the window. I would never come here (or any public forum) and ask for opinions on any major decisions in my life. If you aren't grown up enough to make a decision on something like a car, then you probably aren't ready for it. It's one thing to do research, but it's ridiculous to start a poll about whether or not to buy a car.


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Old 04-09-2014, 11:21 AM   #33
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:31 AM   #34
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Having bought and sold a couple cars over the forums (not this one, but others) over the past I have found you have

Buyers --

They are normally quite educated on what breaks, and when. They are familiar with what these cars are worth. They are also familiar with how much it costs to fix stuff that breaks. They do habitually however fail to accept the fact that maintenance on these cars, that can be documented makes the car more valuable, so they habitually low-ball you because, they have a "homeboy" who bought one just like this one for $3k cheaper.

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Like buyers, they know what breaks and when, and forum cars are either modded by some 16 year old and are thus destroyed, or in the alternative they have done the maintenance. Both sellers though like words like "unique" or "cleanest you will find" "immaculate" "perfect" "literally like new." Both groups of sellers have valued their car materially higher above market value, and bargaining with them is almost impossible. Why!? Because, OMG, its so clean.
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There is a huge difference between 100k and 200k. At 200k you are getting into the possibility of having to replace items that are more complex than just your regular e46 wear and tear stuff.
Precisely. My car has about 160K miles on it, and I've maintained it pretty well, but the reality is that it's an old car. I wouldn't take it cross country, because anything could break at any time, and you really couldn't complain.

Great commuter, comfortable, but if it spun a bearing tomorrow, you'd look at me and say "yeah, well, the car is almost 13 years old with 160K miles, sucks to be you"
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Precisely. My car has about 160K miles on it, and I've maintained it pretty well, but the reality is that it's an old car. I wouldn't take it cross country, because anything could break at any time, and you really couldn't complain.
My car has 120k miles, and I just took it from Louisville, KY to Hilton Head Island and back. I never had a doubt. I had to replace a valve stem because of a leaky rear tire, but that was it. I wouldn't hesitate to take it to San Diego. (If I take it to San Diego, I'm not coming back. I've been there once. It's a nice place to live.)

When I was young, we used to take summer trips to a farm in Iowa (800 miles). Dad used to pack enough tools in the trunk to overhaul the engine, along with 6 quarts of oil. This was for a four year old car with about 50k miles on it.

We didn't break down every year, but when we did, it only took a few minutes to get back on the road.
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My car has 120k miles, and I just took it from Louisville, KY to Hilton Head Island and back. I never had a doubt. I had to replace a valve stem because of a leaky rear tire, but that was it. I wouldn't hesitate to take it to San Diego. (If I take it to San Diego, I'm not coming back. I've been there once. It's a nice place to live.)

When I was young, we used to take summer trips to a farm in Iowa (800 miles). Dad used to pack enough tools in the trunk to overhaul the engine, along with 6 quarts of oil. This was for a four year old car with about 50k miles on it.

We didn't break down every year, but when we did, it only took a few minutes to get back on the road.

Where did you stay in Hilton Head Irish? I lived there for 4 years after high school and worked for the BMW dealer right off the island. I still head down there every fall as I have a timeshare at the Marriott Grand Ocean down on South Forest Beach. Great place to just relax.


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****, I'd take my car on a road trip to South Carolina no problem. 194k and counting!
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I wouldn't take it cross country, because anything could break at any time, and you really couldn't complain.

Great commuter, comfortable, but if it spun a bearing tomorrow, you'd look at me and say "yeah, well, the car is almost 13 years old with 160K miles, sucks to be you"
Tell that to the few people on here that have 350K+ miles on their cars. They can last a long time (reliably) when taken care of.

If it spun a bearing, the question would be what kind of shape is the rest of the car in? Plenty of replacement engines out there.
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I'm not looking for an argument, I'm approaching 200k and want to know what to look for.
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