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Old 04-24-2014, 05:13 PM   #21
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Used to have a Mazda3, and it sucked after a while. Why do I say that? I speak from experience. Mazda's reliability isn't what it used to be, they tend to have issues now that Ford owns 70% of Mazda. Look in the engine bay, you'll find plenty of parts stamped with the "Fomoco" logo or whatever. I remember driving off the lot happy with the new metropolitan grey mazda3 hatch, happy it was new and that I could fit a crap load of stuff in it. I thought perfect....until 3 weeks of owning it the power steering pump just blew at a local library one afternoon while picking my little sister up. The dash had a power steering symbol light up, steering wheel felt like it locked and there was power steering fluid all over the ground. Anywho, they took care of it but, that should have never happened to a brand new car. If you're gonna' go through with a mazda, at least get the mazdaspeed3. Actually, if you can find one get the mazdaspeed 6. Much better.
Why the Ford hatred. Best American car manufacturer today. Very well designed and manufactured European cars too. There isn't anything wrong with a Ford. Have you driven a Ford lately?

Mazda's reliability isn't what it used to be? What did it used to be then? Mazda never was as trouble-free as Toyota or Honda if that's what you meant. Right about square with Nissan, which is better than Mitsubishi. And if you're not as trouble-free as Toyota or Honda then you're about as trouble-free as everything else.

As others have pointed out, Ford doesn't own a majority stake in Mazda anymore, not that said ownership had any detrimental effect upon quality or reliability to begin with.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:20 PM   #22
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Agreed. I've actually been considering looking at the new Mazda 3. I like the new one a lot. I've seen two on the road already. They look fantastic in black. I wanted an E55 at one point but I'm now leaning towards something that isn't a maintenance queen.
They really do look great in black. There's also a grey/bronze metallic that really has my eye. Not sure if I would spec the car fully loaded as it does get pricey. But honestly, a mid/upper level trim is hard to beat in it's class, especially the hatch.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:23 PM   #23
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If you're gonna' go through with a mazda, at least get the mazdaspeed3. Actually, if you can find one get the mazdaspeed 6. Much better.
The last generation mazdaspeed 3 had a ton of torque steer. Fiesta ST would be a better option IMHO.
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Would be a no brainer for me anyways. I just wouldn't buy a new car period. I would look for one maybe a year or two old that has a clean maintenance history and has had most of the bugs worked out.

Besides that... M3.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:33 PM   #25
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:36 PM   #26
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m3 will always hold its money more than a mazda so up to you but no mazda has the presence of a bmw on the road no matter what you see a M3 even the wife says and she knows s""t about cars says i bet thats fast a mazda with a bodykit doesnt look anything i like mazdas think they great cars but after a bmw no get a M3.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:43 PM   #27
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The thing is having two E46s is a bit excessive in cost and/or time especially if you want to maintain both correctly. The OP has to be fine with this
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The thing is having two E46s is a bit excessive in cost and/or time especially if you want to maintain both correctly. The OP has to be fine with this


Just like dating two bishes at the same time. If they are hot then its worth the money and time.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:05 PM   #29
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Having my 330i is the dream come true already. Just last week in the gas station, a dude asked "did you have it repainted? I said no. He said that is
the cleanest 330i I have ever seen, what year, did you buy it used? I said 2001 and I bought it brand new" ......

Having an E46M3 will be my biggest dream, I actually think I am too selfish to do that.
I can do half DIY on my 330 and I think I could do more than half if I had a spare car.

But Mango got to the point, I am already busy to keep my 330 in good shape...2 E46=>?
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I'd buy the M3, sell the older E46 and consider buying a cheaper backup car for when the M3 has issues.
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Mazda3 versus an M3? Seriously? What could possibly be going on in that tiny little brain of yours to think these two cars are even remotely on the same plane?
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Mazda3 versus an M3? Seriously? What could possibly be going on in that tiny little brain of yours to think these two cars are even remotely on the same plane?
It's not one versus the other, it's about the direction OP wants to go with the next car he gets. I wouldn't belittle people as you won't get far in life that way, especially with that tiny little brain of yours
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I wouldn't belittle people as you won't get far in life that way
Far with who? With you? Are you that self absorbed to think I need something from you? Or maybe you mean far in life? Hard work is what gets people far. Being nice doesn't mean sht.
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It's not one versus the other, it's about the direction OP wants to go with the next car he gets. I wouldn't belittle people as you won't get far in life that way, especially with that tiny little brain of yours
He's a machinist. He doesn't need people skills.
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Just like dating two bishes at the same time. If they are hot then its worth the money and time.
Yeah but in this case one is significantly hotter than the other and the less hot one is only getting used and treated when the hot one is being a **** and won't put out.
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Are we still talking about cars here.....
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Are we still talking about cars here.....
Is there any difference? They both like to bitch from time to time.. Both cost lots of money...

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The thing is having two E46s is a bit excessive in cost and/or time especially if you want to maintain both correctly. The OP has to be fine with this
That's true and all, but the Mazda doesn't seem to make a ton of sense given his particular usage scenario. An E46 330i is a really great daily driver, but it's a daily driver through and through. It's silly to waste one as a weekend or road trip car when you could have something more fun and less practical instead. A Mazda3 is... also a daily driver through and through. If the OP is keeping his 330, then he might as well get something fun (like the M3) as a second car. The M3 is perfectly fine as an occasional daily driver, and it makes a great weekend car too.
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