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Old 09-16-2004, 09:47 AM   #1
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Why doesn't BMW race FIA WRC?

Just curious. I rather enjoy watching WRC. Why is it that Americans like the lesser skilled motorsports like Nascar over F1, WRC, and even SpeedGT? That's another thread...

I figured BMW would like to do some WRC with their XI line, they certainly have the motorsports heritage and financial capacity to do it. Then, on 2nd thought, do any auto companies do both F1 and WRC? BMW would certainly be alright in WRC, given that they have the most balanced, best handling cars out of the box.

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Old 09-16-2004, 09:51 AM   #2
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The E46 chassis is way too big/heavy for WRC.
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:47 AM   #3
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The E46 chassis is way too big/heavy for WRC.
what about the 1 series chassis?
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:32 AM   #4
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WRC most likely does not fit BMW's image and marketing hence there isn't any factory BMW WRC cars.
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I think the engine might have something to do with it too. All the FIA WRC cars have turbocharged 4cylinder engines putting out like 300 HP/ 300 TQ. Those engines are proven reliable(for the most part). I don't see BMW building anything like that in the near future.
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Just curious. I rather enjoy watching WRC. Why is it that Americans like the lesser skilled motorsports like Nascar over F1, WRC, and even SpeedGT? That's another thread...

I figured BMW would like to do some WRC with their XI line, they certainly have the motorsports heritage and financial capacity to do it. Then, on 2nd thought, do any auto companies do both F1 and WRC? BMW would certainly be alright in WRC, given that they have the most balanced, best handling cars out of the box.

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You obviously know nothing about WRC.

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The Jaguar name is likely to be lost from the FORMULA 1™ grid in 2005, with bosses of parent company Ford radically shaking up their participation in global motorsport.

Malcolm Wilson, the boss of Ford's rally programme, told reporters on Wednesday that it was unlikely the team would compete every round of the 2005 FIA World Rally Championship. It is thought that this cost-cutting measure will allow Ford to improve its performance within FORMULA 1™. Many areas of the team will be dramatically altered, whilst 'Jaguar Racing' will be re-branded 'Ford Grand Prix' to give the brand greater global awareness.

In a separate incident, Ford are to close the Jaguar production plant at Browns Lane in Coventry at the expense of some 2,000 jobs.
What's interesting about this is that they are taking money away from a very successful WRC programme. Markko Martin is currently in third place in the Driver's, just 1 point behind Petter Solberg. For them to make this work, they need to put to quality drivers in their seats. I think DC would be an excellent acquisition if they can get him.

It's about time that Ford got SERIOUSLY involved in Formula 1.
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BMW already used E30 M3 in the rally, but they were so small and 4 cylinders, I think they raced some E36 M3 LTW too, called the Gruppe N in france, but the E46 chassis is a complete different story
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You correct about 300hp, however the torque is closer to 500 ft lbs.
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GM, please enlighten me. I'm not claiming to know anything about WRC other than the fact I enjoy watching it, I that I have utmost respect for the drivers and the teams. Is my question askew?
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your question isn't askew...there's always someone on the board who answers with a condescending tone whenever a question is asked.

like you said, BMW certainly has the financial capacity to race in the WRC. i think its more a matter of BMW not wanting to spend money on a WRC team. as much money as BMW makes, believe me there's an investment plan for every last cent of it. to start investing in WRC again would mean that BMW would have to decrease funding for F1, R&D, and other areas of the company. BMW has been involved in WRC in the past, and i think when the time is right, they will get involved again.
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BMW would have to develope a turbocharge 2.0L engine to compete, which I don't see them doing in the near future. They already compete in F1, ETCC and LeMans.

The only company I think that did both was Toyota. But they scrapped their WRC team when they decided to compete in F1.
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Can you suggest an AWD car that bmw would be able to race? Cause I can't...mini is FWD, 1 series is RWD
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Can you suggest an AWD car that bmw would be able to race? Cause I can't...mini is FWD, 1 series is RWD
a 3xx Xi
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Yea it'd be a good chassis cept is WAY too big and WAY to heavy...
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Yea it'd be a good chassis cept is WAY too big and WAY to heavy...
Well the WRX and 330xi share relatively similiar dimensions. As for weight, that can easily be taken care of.
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