difference between pioneer and pioneer premeir?

Derek330xi · 09-30-2002, 09:08 PM

what is the difference between normal pioneer and pioneer premeir car audio systems? i am either going to get the pioneer DEH-P8400MP or the pioneer premeir DEH-P840MP ... the two system looks exactly the same and same spec except one is label pioneer and the other is label premeir and the remote is different. is the premeir quaility better or is just marketing? there is a $100cdn price different.

abefroman · 10-01-2002, 08:45 AM

The Premier usually has better components inside. Take a listen sise by side and see if you can hear the $100 difference.

Craig · 10-01-2002, 09:30 AM

Different warranty too

jaytee0401 · 10-01-2002, 09:54 AM

Honestly tho, the pioneer and premier..is basically the same damn thing. About the sound being better in premier, i think its all in the head. The main difference is better warranty, one year longer. It's the same deck with just different tags on the front. Why waste the money to get premier for one more year warranty when it's the same components inside. just my two cent.

drgalleg · 10-01-2002, 12:57 PM

Most of the time, the difference between a product line's "normal" products and its "better" line is legit. Yes, a lot of the additional costs are incurred by the additional marketing and additional waranty benefits, but most of the time there is a legit reason why one is better than the other.

Case in point - Kenwood and its Excelon series. It is my understanding that none of the standard Kenwood headunits have their SystemQ crossover functionality, but all the Excelons do. But there are some regular Kenwood units that cost as much if not more than the Excelons, so what's the deal? SystemQ's provides functionality that an audiophile would want/demand from their headunit, that the mainstream listener wouldn't. That doesn't mean the mainstream user doesn't want flashy features like dot matrix screens or MP3 capability.

Excelon head units also utilize copper components in their circuit boards that allow for the sound signals to be cleaner. They probably use less than optimum materials in their mainstream version.

Summary: most of the time, the differences between a highend version and a low-end version is worth the additional money as the high-end usually has features that are geared towards a more enthusiast type user.

Of course this doesn't apply to cars - I wouldn't buy a Lexus because in the end, it's still just a Toyota...

Just kidding...

dt32569 · 10-02-2002, 01:33 AM

I had a Premier Cassette/Tuner/CD Changer controller in my Supra for 8 years and NEVER EVER had a problem with it. I had friends with normal pioneer receivers that did not last half as long. I thought the difference was WELL worth it!!! The components are better, the warranty is better and it will, IMO, last longer - even if it doesn't sound significantly better - I think you'll be owning it significantly LONGER than you would a Pioneer.

jaytee0401 · 10-02-2002, 02:05 AM

words from a pioneer distributor, "Pioneer and Premier is the same ****. Basically the same components inside. All you pay for is the longer warranty and the name Premier". As for me, i dont worry about my warranty since i have a Pioneer deck. My warranty is even longer than the Premier's. Good to know friends in the right places. haha.

FOBGoober · 10-04-2002, 07:12 AM

FYI.. THe only difference between the 8400 and 840MP is this..
The exterior color... and warranty.. for all those who doubt this there have been plenty of comparisons betweens these 2 decks as well as the 940 and 9400.. do a search on caraudioforum.com and elitecaraudio.com people on both sites have tested them..

THe pioneer output is said to be 4.5 and the preimer is 6.0 but numerous people have put the regular pioneer on a flukemeter and it registered at 6V.. so what are the differences?? nothing except for looks and warranty.. Premier is a 2 year warranty and pioneers is only 1..

09-30-2002, 09:08 PM	#1
Derek330xi Registered User Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Toronto Posts: 340 My Ride: E46 330xi View My Garage	difference between pioneer and pioneer premeir? what is the difference between normal pioneer and pioneer premeir car audio systems? i am either going to get the pioneer DEH-P8400MP or the pioneer premeir DEH-P840MP ... the two system looks exactly the same and same spec except one is label pioneer and the other is label premeir and the remote is different. is the premeir quaility better or is just marketing? there is a $100cdn price different. __________________

10-01-2002, 09:30 AM	#3
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10-02-2002, 01:33 AM	#6
dt32569 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: FL Posts: 131 My Ride: 330Ci View My Garage	Premier I had a Premier Cassette/Tuner/CD Changer controller in my Supra for 8 years and NEVER EVER had a problem with it. I had friends with normal pioneer receivers that did not last half as long. I thought the difference was WELL worth it!!! The components are better, the warranty is better and it will, IMO, last longer - even if it doesn't sound significantly better - I think you'll be owning it significantly LONGER than you would a Pioneer.

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10-01-2002, 08:45 AM	#2
abefroman Registered User Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 496 My Ride: 2000 323i View My Garage	The Premier usually has better components inside. Take a listen sise by side and see if you can hear the $100 difference.

10-01-2002, 09:54 AM	#4
jaytee0401 Thread Hijacker!!! Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Bay Area, Cali Posts: 505 My Ride: ur girl!!! View My Garage	Honestly tho, the pioneer and premier..is basically the same damn thing. About the sound being better in premier, i think its all in the head. The main difference is better warranty, one year longer. It's the same deck with just different tags on the front. Why waste the money to get premier for one more year warranty when it's the same components inside. just my two cent.

10-01-2002, 12:57 PM	#5
drgalleg Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 449 My Ride: '02 325Ci View My Garage	Most of the time, the difference between a product line's "normal" products and its "better" line is legit. Yes, a lot of the additional costs are incurred by the additional marketing and additional waranty benefits, but most of the time there is a legit reason why one is better than the other. Case in point - Kenwood and its Excelon series. It is my understanding that none of the standard Kenwood headunits have their SystemQ crossover functionality, but all the Excelons do. But there are some regular Kenwood units that cost as much if not more than the Excelons, so what's the deal? SystemQ's provides functionality that an audiophile would want/demand from their headunit, that the mainstream listener wouldn't. That doesn't mean the mainstream user doesn't want flashy features like dot matrix screens or MP3 capability. Excelon head units also utilize copper components in their circuit boards that allow for the sound signals to be cleaner. They probably use less than optimum materials in their mainstream version. Summary: most of the time, the differences between a highend version and a low-end version is worth the additional money as the high-end usually has features that are geared towards a more enthusiast type user. Of course this doesn't apply to cars - I wouldn't buy a Lexus because in the end, it's still just a Toyota... Just kidding...

10-02-2002, 02:05 AM	#7
jaytee0401 Thread Hijacker!!! Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Bay Area, Cali Posts: 505 My Ride: ur girl!!! View My Garage	words from a pioneer distributor, "Pioneer and Premier is the same ****. Basically the same components inside. All you pay for is the longer warranty and the name Premier". As for me, i dont worry about my warranty since i have a Pioneer deck. My warranty is even longer than the Premier's. Good to know friends in the right places. haha.

10-04-2002, 07:12 AM	#8
FOBGoober Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TX Posts: 23 My Ride: 325CI View My Garage	FYI.. THe only difference between the 8400 and 840MP is this.. The exterior color... and warranty.. for all those who doubt this there have been plenty of comparisons betweens these 2 decks as well as the 940 and 9400.. do a search on caraudioforum.com and elitecaraudio.com people on both sites have tested them.. THe pioneer output is said to be 4.5 and the preimer is 6.0 but numerous people have put the regular pioneer on a flukemeter and it registered at 6V.. so what are the differences?? nothing except for looks and warranty.. Premier is a 2 year warranty and pioneers is only 1..