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Old 06-09-2005, 09:45 AM   #41
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If you don't have the time or motivation to spend an hour washing it yourself, then take it to a 100% hand wash carwash. Pick a place that is popular, that's been there a while, and has lots of nice cars running thru it.

Paying $12 bucks (plus $2 tip) and 20 minutes of my time (while I'm doing business waiting) is sometimes worth it to me. Plus, the car wash I go thru washes plenty of higher end BMWs, Mers, Porsches, Escalades, Hummers, L Rovers, etc. I think they can handle my entry level Bimmer with no problem.

BTW If you want to help reduce your carwash time (when you wash it yourself), buy a $45 electric Blower! This thing saves tons of drying time, especially drying out the little crevices that hold water, roof racks, wheels/tires, molding etc.
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:04 AM   #42
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just wash your own car. if it gets dirty wash it again. its like brushing your teeth. get in the habit of cleaning em. once in a while wax it (much like getting a check up where they polish your teeth)
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:18 AM   #43
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theres a car wash near me that is a drive through, no brushes or anything touches your car, 100% spray and they spray all kinds of colored foams at you. wash wax and undercarraige for 8 bucks. not bad

except since nothing touches your car it doesnt do **** for your wheels, gotta do em by hand
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:50 PM   #44
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theres a car wash near me that is a drive through, no brushes or anything touches your car, 100% spray and they spray all kinds of colored foams at you. wash wax and undercarraige for 8 bucks. not bad

except since nothing touches your car it doesnt do **** for your wheels, gotta do em by hand
Touchless doesn't make it any better. For one, not all the grime is being taken off the car. There has to be some sort of contact. Also \, the only reason a touchless can claim to work is because of the harsh soaps they use. That stuff will strip all wax away. So if you enjoy a half-assed wash and a car sans wax, go through touchless.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:32 PM   #45
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Touchless doesn't make it any better. For one, not all the grime is being taken off the car. There has to be some sort of contact. Also \, the only reason a touchless can claim to work is because of the harsh soaps they use. That stuff will strip all wax away. So if you enjoy a half-assed wash and a car sans wax, go through touchless.
alright i was being a wise ass with the comment
"There has to be some sort of contact."
but if ANYTHING is touching the car when it's dirty - such as a hand sponge, a brush, mitt, carwash rollers...theres going to be swirl marks no matter how you cut the cake-sorry to say
swirl marks are caused by the dirt moving around on whatever you're using to clean it....so if you wash your car yourself you're still going to have some sort of swirls just not as many
and yes he has a dark metallic blue sl and in the sun the swirls are next to none
again i'm not trying to offend anyone i'm simply typing the truth...
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Old 06-09-2005, 05:13 PM   #46
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Ha!

I go to the carwash every other week. After vacuum, they use a high pressure lukewarm water/detergent mix to wet the car, get rid of big dirt, then the car gets foamed and massaged by slow-rotation brushes and long strips of what look like firehose before being spray-waxed and wind-buffeted. All in about 60 feet of workspace. THEN, it gets hand-dried and the interior gets wiped down. Total time takes about ten minutes. $8 w/ coupon (and they always give you a new coupon), but really more like $10 w/ tip.

I also get it clayed, hand-waxed and detailed twice a year, which costs $100 (with tip) here in CA. I drop it off in the morning and get it back int he afternoon.

No swirls, no scratches, no damage. The process took care of my jet-black MBZ for almost 7 years without a single swirl, chip, dent or haze. But I think it's great you guys spend two or more hours a week polishing away. And you do have amazing cars.

I've just got too much other stuff to do with this short life.

I say go get it washed at a quality place if you value your (free) time. As to "quality": look for a carwash that services a lot of high-end cars.

Understanding that you ARE handing your car over to mechanization, that reusing a percentage of water and materials is not just in the financial interest of the carwash but is also mandated in most cities, I doubt you'll be disappointed with the results. It's not like they're spraying compound slurries onto your car... And hey - you're being waaaaay friendlier to the environment than most home-washers.

The key to the carwash though is to go when your paint is cool. It's such a fast process that your paint doesn't really have time to cool before chemicals get applied to it (whereas at home you can kill a wetland by running cold water on your car for an hour before beginning).
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:09 PM   #47
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Am I alone here???

Just read all the posts in this thread, and I'd like to know if I'm the only one...

I wash my car twice weekly, with touch up HP sprays in between if I've been on the highway... and I do it because I LOVE washing / polishing my car.

For me to take my car to someone else would be like depriving myself.

But that's just my $0.02

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Old 06-09-2005, 09:32 PM   #48
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HP - High Pressure?

Just like the HP that you can use to clean cement, or siding?

Not on my paint....

gentle, gentle, soften and float off the dirt

lubricate the abrasives with a good soap (Zaino) and float them off, then rinse - gently

no water-blasting...
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:24 PM   #49
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I like washing my car 3 times a week... There is a bg horsepower incease if you do. Like 20-30 at the wheels.
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oops.. increase.

By the way... I only use natural spring water.
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oops.. increase.

By the way... I only use natural spring water.
stoops you're supposed to use imported san pellegrino water - come on man get with the program
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:02 AM   #52
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aaaaargh - I just bought a water DISTILLER for my garage!

RS: high pressure like the do-it-yourself carwashes offer. Veeeeery different than the high pressure washers used to strip paint/clean siding and sidewalks. About 1,000psi different.

No matter though - this is just a personal choice issue and I used to spend countless hours hand-washing and detailing my cars back in the day (even my old Bronco ). If you dig it - awesome.

If you're scared to go to a carwash and want opinions, my experience says going to a GOOD, QUALITY carwash won't mess your car up in the least.
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:14 AM   #53
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Yes and yes...

High pressure for cars is different - Yes.
Surface of you car very different than siding and cement - Yes also.

Bottom line - experts agree (read the many detailing threads, instructions, reccomendations etc.) pressure not good for car paint.

And yes, it is a personal choice. But what I know to be fact - I have a Jet Black car. Arguably the hardest to keep scratch and swirl free. It IS scratch and swirl free. I attribute this to No Commercial Car Washes. No Time Saving Equipment or Tools. Zaino. And Lots of Gentle Babying.


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aaaaargh - I just bought a water DISTILLER for my garage!

RS: high pressure like the do-it-yourself carwashes offer. Veeeeery different than the high pressure washers used to strip paint/clean siding and sidewalks. About 1,000psi different.

No matter though - this is just a personal choice issue and I used to spend countless hours hand-washing and detailing my cars back in the day (even my old Bronco ). If you dig it - awesome.

If you're scared to go to a carwash and want opinions, my experience says going to a GOOD, QUALITY carwash won't mess your car up in the least.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:17 PM   #54
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I succumbed to the 'once you go black you never go back to black' thing after the MBZ. Black is an AWESOME color for cars - I love it. But you're right RSJ: it takes WORK to keep it nice (your work or somebody else's). Out here in Cali it gets damn hot, too. And something is always in bloom and it's a dusty part of the country, so you can't go more than a day or two without dusting the car to get the pollen or dust off.

Okay, okay - I'm lazy. There. But I just went out to lunch, hit OSH for some caulk and got a carwash for $11. All in an hour. And my ride looks goooood for the next 10 days...
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