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Old 05-09-2002, 12:52 AM   #1
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Dammit......................

Why doesn't ESS provide torque gains for their systems or even dyno charts showing torque gains.

HP don't mean **** to me.
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Old 05-09-2002, 12:56 AM   #2
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Why doesn't ESS provide torque gains for their systems or even dyno charts showing torque gains.

HP don't mean **** to me.
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You are not refering to its supercharger right?? lol~~ :tongue:
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You are not refering to its supercharger right?? lol~~ :tongue:
I am. Why?
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I'm from California, I wounder if i'd be able to pass smog with that thing?
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I am. Why?
You serious?? No torgue gains on their supercharger?? I thought you were saying their intake system or something~~
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You serious?? No torgue gains on their supercharger?? I thought you were saying their intake system or something~~

No no, what I'm saying is that ESS doesn't provide any info on torque gains on their SC which is what I am REALLY interested in.
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Since torque, rpm, and hp are all related you can find the torque if you know the hp at a given rpm; use this formula: (5252 * HP) / RPM = Torque. FYI: You can also find the hp if you know the torque at a given rpm using this formula: (RPM * Torque) / 5252 = HP. So dust off your pocket protector and get out a calculator...
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Since torque, rpm, and hp are all related you can find the torque if you know the hp at a given rpm; use this formula: (5252 * HP) / RPM = Torque. FYI: You can also find the hp if you know the torque at a given rpm using this formula: (RPM * Torque) / 5252 = HP. So dust off your pocket protector and get out a calculator...
Too much work for me. Wanna to the calculations for me?

Will that also give you torque at it's peak RPM?
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Is ESS gonna come out with a stage two, an intercooler I guess, for the SC? I think someone mentioned but maybe I was reading wrong...
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From their 323 specs there's 2 different types of software.

*True OBDII, optimized performance ECU software with removed top speed governor and 6700RPM limit.


*True OBDII, Stage 2 performance ECU software with removed top speed governor and 6900RPM limit.
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This is a very close estimate of the supercharged torqe numbers for the Stage 2 Performance ECU and SC on a 323i/Ci...
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i think i know what your coming from... my only complaint about my car is torque, low end torque(if that is anything) i think torque is power and if you have no power then your car isn't ****. wierd, i might be talking out my ass.
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i think i know what your coming from... my only complaint about my car is torque, low end torque(if that is anything) i think torque is power and if you have no power then your car isn't ****. wierd, i might be talking out my ass.
Torque is only half the story, take for instance the S2000... it has **** for torque (152 lb./ft.), but because it revs up through 8300 rpm, it can produce a respectable 240 hp. Most people refer to back to HP because it combines the different units of power.
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Torque is only half the story, take for instance the S2000... it has **** for torque (152 lb./ft.), but because it revs up through 8300 rpm, it can produce a respectable 240 hp. Most people refer to back to HP because it combines the different units of power.
so would the ultimate combo be high torque and high HP, like this viper i hear of that has 500hp and 500 torque?
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Of course, but I was making an illustration out of the S2000. Check out this 18 cylinder piece of work, the Bugatti EB 18/4 Veyron
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