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Old 09-02-2005, 10:22 PM   #21
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Get a full face unless you like rearranging your face on the steering wheel.

What about the shoulder harness? Also doesn't your car come with a air bag? If you hit something that hard you might bite the wheel, the aibag will hit you first.
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Old 09-05-2005, 09:48 PM   #22
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As for the shoulder harness, belts stretch as does the human body.

As for the air bag, if you're going to rely on that, why have a helmet at all?
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Old 09-23-2005, 08:48 AM   #24
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I'm a die hard Arai fan, put one on, the late model ones have a fantastic fit and are super light (some of) and IMO they dont look as "noob" as the Bell ones.
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:28 PM   #25
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I hate to sound like I'm putting my own life on a budget, but Arai helmets are a bit too expensive for me at this point. I'm still considering Bell or Pyrotect.
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Old 09-25-2005, 11:55 AM   #26
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I hate to sound like I'm putting my own life on a budget, but Arai helmets are a bit too expensive for me at this point. I'm still considering Bell or Pyrotect.
If you want high quality at a budget price, get a G-Force.
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Old 09-27-2005, 12:59 PM   #27
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:59 PM   #28
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A couple more thoughts on the subject.........I have a Bell M3 by the way.

Get one that is fitted properly, by someone that knows how to fit you - a poorly fitting helmet can cause you serious injuries.

Light weight is much more important than you think. You're adding weight to the top of you head, that's being subjected to much more G-loading than you are used to. If you expect to start doing a lot of track time, make the investment in a lighter helmet.

Some driving schools do not accept motorcycle hemets, as they do not have the fire retardent properties that SA rated helmets do that are more important in a car, which is the main reason cycle helmets are cheaper.

Think about getting a balacalva (nomex hood), they may make you a bit warmer, but they keep your helmet cleaner, as well as better protect you from fire. If you are going to wear one, wear it when you get fitted.

I'm all for full face helmets, but there has been much publicity recently (I beleive through the SCCA) that with an airbag equipped car full face helmets may actually be more dangerous than full face. It has something to do with the bag againts the front of the helmet breaking your jaw I think. For me, I accept this added risk, as I think overall a broken jaw is better than other hazards, again, particualrly fire, and as I do have Schroth harnesses, I belive that I may be held back better from the airbag deployment as well, but I have nothing but my own common sense telling me that. In any case, check with the santioning body of the events you plan to attend to see if they are limiting air bag cars to open face helmets.

Neck braces certainly seem to make sence, and I just bought the Sparco Anotomic as it seems to be the most subtantial brace available. But they are no substitue for a HANS - however, it seems (this is striclty personal opinion again) that the airbag would provide some additional protection (and maybe substantial protection) in a serious head on collision in conjunction with the neck brace, as well as the harnesses. It wouldld be nice to see some tests in this area, as so many people now take part in open track / drivers ed events.

There is a huge difference in the quality of safety gear - Sparco and Stand21 are tops - look what the pros wear. You can add Bell to the list for helments, and I have a lot of respect for Bill Simpson with both Simpson and Impact (his new company) products.

I think you can find SA2005 rated helmets now, so SA2000s will be cheaper, but you'll loose 5 years of use.
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Good info. I'm waiting for more SA2005 helmets to surface. I can't find any currently.
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:15 PM   #30
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I'm all for full face helmets, but there has been much publicity recently (I beleive through the SCCA) that with an airbag equipped car full face helmets may actually be more dangerous than full face.
This was caused by someone over reacting.

The panic was a result of a feasibility study concerning using airbags in F1 cars. The study results absolutely should not be construed as applying to production cars.

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There is a huge difference in the quality of safety gear - Sparco and Stand21 are tops - look what the pros wear. You can add Bell to the list for helments, and I have a lot of respect for Bill Simpson with both Simpson and Impact (his new company) products.
I generally agree with this except for three things.

1) While I've long been a wearer of Bell helmets (one saved my life) I would not likely own one again because of point 2.

2) I've found the G-Force to be better quality than the Bells I've owned, at a better price, and Kevlar to boot! (SA only)

3) As for Stand 21, I'd read this thread first:

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...d.php?t=224322

I'd SERIOUSLY recommend reading that before buying a Stand 21.
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Old 09-29-2005, 09:31 AM   #31
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only helmets I have and will ever own are the ARAI helmets. great comfort and top quality.yes they are a little expensive, but then again do you want a $100 helmet protecting your skull?
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Old 10-07-2005, 11:09 AM   #32
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I decided on the Pyrotect model. Got it with the iridium faceplate so I don't have to wear sunglasses inside.

The fit is perfect; no pressure points and it stays in place. I bought it from here: http://www.thebellstore.com/. Got on the phone w/ one of their sales reps and he answered all my questions regarding fitment, Snell specifications, etc. A positive experience and I'm looking forward to my next driving event!
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I have a Bell M4, very good helmet for the price.
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