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Old 03-07-2006, 06:23 PM   #1
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The new 2007 BMW 335i coupe has 302 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque and breaks ground as the first turbocharged gasoline-powered BMW in decades.
BY MIKE DUSHANE
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The BMW 335i coupe that will appear later this year may look like nothing more than the latest chapter in the 3-series coupe book, but there are some radical changes under the skin. The 335i (the C goes away on this coupe as it did on the 650i for the 2006 model year) will have a 3.0-liter twin-turbo inline-six with piezoelectric direct injection. The symmetrical turbos are relatively small and each feed three cylinders. Power output is up only 47 hp over the normally aspirated version of the same 3.0-liter six found in the 330i, but BMW claims that turbo lag is all but avoided and more importantly peak torque increases 34 percent and is available from 1500 to 5800 rpm. BMW estimates that the twin-turbo setup gives the 335i's six the power and torque characteristics of a 4.0-liter V-8 with 10 percent less fuel consumption and 145 fewer pounds. BMW expects the 335i to shave more than half a second from the 330i's 0-to-60 time, which should put it in the low-five-second range scarcely more than the outgoing E46 M3. The 335i is expected to carry a base price of approximately $42,000 when it goes on sale this summer. The 2008 M3 is expected to have a 400-hp naturally aspirated V-8 and cost $10,000 more.

Why, you ask, would BMW go to all the trouble of making this complex turbo engine when a V-8 would be a simpler and purer means to the same end? As worldwide petroleum reserves decline and prices go up, efficiency becomes paramount, even for performance and luxury vehicles. As worldwide emissions standards become increasingly strict, high-performance diesels recently thought to be the next big thing become less feasible. Mercedes-Benz also recently announced a piezoelectric direct-injection gasoline six which is naturally aspirated for now. Dr. Thomas Weber, Mercedes-Benz's top engineering and development officer, confirms that turbocharged smaller-displacement engines are in Mercedes-Benz's near-term future as well. Turbos are here to stay.

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Old 03-07-2006, 06:27 PM   #2
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that engine sounds nice just dont know about the body. i wish they would have left the body alone
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:39 PM   #3
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The new 2007 BMW 335i coupe has 302 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque and breaks ground as the first turbocharged gasoline-powered BMW in decades.
BY MIKE DUSHANE
PHOTOGRAPHY BY CHRISTA LEHMANN/HIDDEN IMAGE
March 2006

The BMW 335i coupe that will appear later this year may look like nothing more than the latest chapter in the 3-series coupe book, but there are some radical changes under the skin. The 335i (the C goes away on this coupe as it did on the 650i for the 2006 model year) will have a 3.0-liter twin-turbo inline-six with piezoelectric direct injection. The symmetrical turbos are relatively small and each feed three cylinders. Power output is up only 47 hp over the normally aspirated version of the same 3.0-liter six found in the 330i, but BMW claims that turbo lag is all but avoided and more importantly peak torque increases 34 percent and is available from 1500 to 5800 rpm. BMW estimates that the twin-turbo setup gives the 335i's six the power and torque characteristics of a 4.0-liter V-8 with 10 percent less fuel consumption and 145 fewer pounds. BMW expects the 335i to shave more than half a second from the 330i's 0-to-60 time, which should put it in the low-five-second range scarcely more than the outgoing E46 M3. The 335i is expected to carry a base price of approximately $42,000 when it goes on sale this summer. The 2008 M3 is expected to have a 400-hp naturally aspirated V-8 and cost $10,000 more.

Why, you ask, would BMW go to all the trouble of making this complex turbo engine when a V-8 would be a simpler and purer means to the same end? As worldwide petroleum reserves decline and prices go up, efficiency becomes paramount, even for performance and luxury vehicles. As worldwide emissions standards become increasingly strict, high-performance diesels recently thought to be the next big thing become less feasible. Mercedes-Benz also recently announced a piezoelectric direct-injection gasoline six which is naturally aspirated for now. Dr. Thomas Weber, Mercedes-Benz's top engineering and development officer, confirms that turbocharged smaller-displacement engines are in Mercedes-Benz's near-term future as well. Turbos are here to stay.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....ticle_id=10753
i don't understand why the coupe has a huge rear overhang?
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:52 PM   #4
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ya.. it looks really loong.. but id buy one
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:01 PM   #5
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I thought...

3.5 = NA
3.0 = biTurbo...
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:05 PM   #6
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either way it looks too big like BMW thought it was a design exercise for an 80's Caddy but with kidney grills and roundels.

300hp big deal, probably needs that much to get from 0-60 as quickly as a 323
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:07 PM   #7
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i don't understand why the coupe has a huge rear overhang?
That's probably just the disguise during the testing. I'm sure it would be similar to the dimensions that make the 3er a great sports machine.

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Old 03-07-2006, 07:10 PM   #8
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the engine sounds awesome, but the body design could use some work.

for some reason the front headlight assembly reminds me of a civic



and on that caddy overhang
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:45 PM   #9
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the engine sounds awesome, but the body design could use some work.

for some reason the front headlight assembly reminds me of a civic



and on that caddy overhang
yes it does look like a civic. way too long and it's ass is just weird shaped
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:51 PM   #10
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One thing that catches my eye in that article is that the new V8 M3 will cost $10,000 more than the 335i, which means it will start at around $52,000. The new RS4 wil be at least $70,000. For that price, I would most definitely take the new M3.
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:57 PM   #11
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One thing that catches my eye in that article is that the new V8 M3 will cost $10,000 more than the 335i, which means it will start at around $52,000. The new RS4 wil be at least $70,000. For that price, I would most definitely take the new M3.
that's because the new RS4 is the most overpriced slow piece of crap ever. audi's are always overpriced and nowhere near it's competion... S4 against an M3? PLEASE! the new RS4 is more competition for the E46 M3, the E92 M3 is going to DUST the new RS4..
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It really hurts to look at these pic's. I don't even think the few cosmetic changes that normally come with the M3 can make that body style more appealing
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no offense, but i think the new coupes look beat from all the pictures i've seen. i wont officially hate them till i see one in person, but i really dont like what ive seen from pics, granted some are photoshopped. im still even iffy on the new sedans, but im soooo glad i got an e46.
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Old 03-07-2006, 10:33 PM   #16
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I always thought the E46 was much nicer looking than the E36, more curvy less angular. I guess the folks in charge felt differently.
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that engine sounds nice just dont know about the body. i wish they would have left the body alone
sounds nice but the car still looks ugly
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Old 03-07-2006, 11:17 PM   #18
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Just think of the tuning potentional of stock bi-turbos For example, the B5 S4 sees gains of about 90hp/100lbs-ft with just an ECU map. The 335i will breathe a whole new life into the BMW modding scene!
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the engine will be amazing! it's too bad the body is ghastly!

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