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Old 04-04-2006, 08:03 PM   #1
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Dawn to Strip wax?

I want to clean and wax again should I strip the old wax with dawn soap?? As a pre wax cleaner I use Zymol's HD clense, would that take the old wax off??

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Old 04-04-2006, 08:26 PM   #2
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Yes, Zaino Bros. says on thier website to use dish det. but you HAVE to wax it when you are done
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:40 PM   #3
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I've used Dawn to remove the old wax and it works as promised.
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:58 PM   #4
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the one thing i hate... whenever i run out of wash, i end up having to use dish soap and I HAVE to wax the car. What is worse, one time i didnt have time to wax afterwards.
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Old 04-04-2006, 11:38 PM   #5
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It's really not a good idea to use dawn, but whatever floats your boat
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Old 04-04-2006, 11:57 PM   #6
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there seems to be a fair amount of debate for using Dawn for wax removal.
Why don't you use Klasse AIO or Poorboy Professional Polish instead?
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:35 PM   #7
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So polishes will remove wax anyway? I am going to be doing a huge detail of my car on Friday and had already planned on using Dawn.
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Old 04-05-2006, 03:42 PM   #8
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hey travis,
from what I know, clay bar, polishers(Klasse AIO, PB Professional Polish, P21S Paint Cleanser) will remove wax.

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It's really not a good idea to use dawn, but whatever floats your boat
I agree with LucasZCPM3. While Dawn will strip wax, it can be harmful for trim, rubber, and also has the tendency to dry things out. If you are trying to remove wax, wash with a proper automotive shampoo and then polish your paint afterwards. A chemical polish or an abrasive polish will strip off any protection on your paints surface leaving you ready for the next step... (glaze, sealant, wax). Hope this helps!

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thanks for the heads up. i hate resorting to dishwasher soap. bought a whoooole lot of stuff to detail with on friday before the fest =)
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:22 PM   #11
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I agree with LucasZCPM3. While Dawn will strip wax, it can be harmful for trim, rubber, and also has the tendency to dry things out. If you are trying to remove wax, wash with a proper automotive shampoo and then polish your paint afterwards. A chemical polish or an abrasive polish will strip off any protection on your paints surface leaving you ready for the next step... (glaze, sealant, wax). Hope this helps!

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I think you're basically correct, but I always rehydrate the trim and rubber with Sonus trim-treater (I suppose you could call it). They call it Tire and Bumper Dressing, IFRC. Everyone has their own method and madness. I just wish the wheels didn't get filthy in two days of around-town driving. I think the best solution in my case may be black wheels (with a silver lip :-)). I'm basically a cheapskate, and I hate the idea of getting non-OEM pads when BMW is eventually going to pay for the repl. I might actually change them out for Akeboos or Axxis, if I didn't know that my daughter is going to be taking it to college in three years; she doesn't care (except for it being a Bimmer); she isn't going to clean it like I do, but that's OK. Plus, she's gonna curb the crap out of the rims, prolly even worse than the wifey (although I keep harrassing her about it), so it would be a waste to worry about them too much.

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Old 04-07-2006, 06:14 PM   #12
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Dish soaps were designed to scour metal and dissolve grease. They are not gentle or pH balanced. They will not only strip old wax but will actually remove essential oils from your paint. Paint is like skin. It has several layers that do different things. Some of those layers protects and hold moisture (essential oils) that keep the paint looking healthy and rich. Stripping occasionally with dish soap is only recommended if you are going to polish with a emollient rich polish like P21S Cleansing polish that will replace the oils that you have removed. Personally I feel that a dish soap is rarely necessary. Polishing with even Klasse AIO will remove old wax. Its kinda like this, if soap will clean your skin well why use something like terpentine. Polish will do the job, why create more problems?

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Old 04-09-2006, 12:18 PM   #13
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Save the dish soap...

for the dishes. There are loads of products for prepping paint for a wax job. I've had great results w/ Mother's Pre-wax cleaner. It's also good for removing stubborn crap from the paint. Anything short of road tar. It's more labor intensive than washing w/ Dawn but it's the right way to do it. There are loads of other brands. Talk to some of the older car guys in your neiborhood or the detailers for advice on their favorites.
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