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Old 04-09-2006, 01:38 PM   #1
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How bad are "wheel cleaners"...

Before buying my CSL wheels (which I still haven't put back on for the warmer months), I always used wheel cleaners (spray on cleaner, wash on with a mit, and spray off with water). However, when I put on the CSls, I started only cleaning them with soap and water (from the soap bucket used to clean the car). I would apply it with an old mit. Are spray on cleaners bad for the rims? Should I continue using soap and water to clean the CSL reps or is it much better for them to only use soap and water?
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:19 PM   #2
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Soap and water are your best bet. Then follow it up with a good wheel sealant to keep the wheels looking new.

A lot of wheel cleaners contain acids and harsh chemicals that can damage the paint causing it to flake or fade in time. You don't want that.

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Old 04-09-2006, 02:25 PM   #3
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wheel sealent meaning wheel wax?
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:27 PM   #4
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yeah. WheelWax, Poorboys Wheel Sealant, etc.


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Old 04-09-2006, 07:11 PM   #5
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yeah i bought some and use it maybe once a month...i kinda wanna put it on again before mounting the wheels
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Old 04-10-2006, 11:05 AM   #6
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Many commercial wheel cleaners use harsh chemicals that can clean the wheel but also have harmful effects. Some will harm the wheel in one use while some can harm the wheel with regular use. I recommend using traditional soap and water or a ph balanced wheel cleaner like the P21S Wheel Gel. This product is safe for any wheel finish and will not harm the wheel. For the most difficult stains or embedded brake dust you can use a metal polish.

After you're done cleaning it apply the Wheel Wax or the Poorboy's World Wheel Sealant to reduce the amount of time spent cleaning and the wheels look great.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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What ever you do don't use acids. They will etch your clear coat in no time and even rust out your calipers. Any wheel care products that state spray on hose off most likely contain harsh acids (pH less than 7 or bases pH greater than 7).

The problem I have with most de-greasers is that they contain sodium hydroxide. This is a caustic chemical that is very basic (pH greater than 7). Products like these tend to do 2 things. They speed up oxidation (especially aluminum) and the remove grease and oil. Because factory wheels contain paint and clear they also contain essential oils just the paint on the car that help the paint to look healthy and keep from drying out. De-greasers remove these oils and dry out painted surfaces prematurely.

The fix: wash your wheels with car wash soap and water. Always start with the least aggressive pH balanced solution you can. If it doesn't work then go to the next step. If you maintain with soap and water regularly or even P21S wheel cleaner it becomes a very simple task. Add a coat of wheel sealant to this process once in a while and it becomes even easier.

Remember your wheels are clear coated. Use you paint care products. If your wheels are looking a little dull, polish them with your car polish. If you don't have a wheel sealant put a coat of Klasse on them, it will work almost as well.

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Old 04-11-2006, 12:29 AM   #8
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Question about My wheels

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I been using the Eagle One Aluminum Spray Cleaner and on the bottle says it Clear Coat Aluminum Safe. My Car build up So much brake dust even with After Market Ceramic brake pads. I dont even think I can get rid of the all the break dust alone with the use of use just Soap and water. The Eagle one sprays really brake it down. but i still have little areas of brake dust build up that are hard to get too. Can any one tell me what i should use to get to those hard to reach areas with out using any thing harsh that would scratch my rims. Im have the Iforged Equips. Also when I apply the Wheels Wax to my rims should i use a buffer fo buff the wax on or should i just give it a little rub down? Thanks if you can help me out.....
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^^So are you guys saying the p21s wheel gel will not damage the finish on brushed alumminum rims with polished lip and clearcoated face?
any type of guarantee so I dont wreck them? lol
ie. lip chipping etc.
My previous thoughts were that wheel cleaners are not safe for custom wheels but if it is that is even better. Do you guys use p21s on a reg basis with DPEs, HREs, and the like with no problem?

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^^So are you guys saying the p21s wheel gel will not damage the finish on brushed alumminum rims with polished lip and clearcoated face?
any type of guarantee so I dont wreck them? lol
ie. lip chipping etc.
My previous thoughts were that wheel cleaners are not safe for custom wheels but if it is that is even better. Do you guys use p21s on a reg basis with DPEs, HREs, and the like with no problem?
the p21s is absolutely safe for all wheel finishes, it contains nothing that would harm your wheels.
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Davidwarren would be correct. P21S is pH banalced and will not hurt un-clearcoated aluminum or other delicate surfaces. Those are the types of wheels P21S is ideal for.

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