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Old 12-04-2005, 02:07 PM   #1
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What is the brighest H7 bulbs without any blue or gold reflection?

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Just trying to find what is the brighest H7 bulbs out there, something that compares to our xenons. Since one of my bulb burned out, I figure now is a good time to upgrade my DRL, H7 bulbs.

Any suggestions on name brand, model and any vendors here that sell them.

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Old 12-04-2005, 02:16 PM   #2
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I love nokyas H7 bulbs... they are 8500K halogens but put out an almost xenon looking light... They will run you about 50 bucks a pair in the store or 35+ shipping on ebay...

If you can spend more, I have also heard good things about PIAAs plasma spark blue bulbs in terms of xenon look.. hwoever, they will run you about 100 bucks a pair
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2000_328CI, thanks for the quick reply, I just searched ebay and it seems that most of them have a blue or gold glass. Therefore it will have a reflection when someone looks at it head one. Do you know any other name brands that doesn't give a reflection.

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Old 12-04-2005, 02:33 PM   #4
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Piaa H7 Xtreme White Plus

PIAA H7 XTREME WHITE PLUS: I think these will work. From the picture, the glass is clear, but looks like there is a slight shade of blue. Anyone has these and knows if these will give off a reflection or not?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PIAA-...QQcmdZViewItem

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2000_328CI, thanks for the quick reply, I just searched ebay and it seems that most of them have a blue or gold glass. Therefore it will have a reflection when someone looks at it head one. Do you know any other name brands that doesn't give a reflection.

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you will get the blue or gold look from pretty much every brand. Unless you get xenon bulbs, the company will have to tint the glass in order for you to get a bluish white look... I don't know of any companise that sell halogens capapble of blue light output that won't have the blue eyeball effect... oh and most people actually like the eyeball effect
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:12 PM   #6
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Just trying to find what is the brighest H7 bulbs out there, something that compares to our xenons. Since one of my bulb burned out, I figure now is a good time to upgrade my DRL, H7 bulbs.

Any suggestions on name brand, model and any vendors here that sell them.

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First of all, no halogen even comes close to factory or aftermarket HID(in terms of intensity).

When you say "bright", do you mean higher color temperature(degrees kelvin) or higher light intensity(lumens)?

If you are looking for the best possible light output(lumens), then the answer is the Osram Silverstar H7 +50% halogen capsule; they were featured in a summer article of Roundel. Get them on ebay. The only problem with them is the color temperature is close to stock with slightly less yellow. I think they are rated just below 4000k.

If the color of the light is important to you, PIAA extreme white and sylvania silverstar will give you 4150K and 4000k respectively, both give off a noticebly whiter light.

If you don't do a lot of night driving and don't care about the reduced safety margin, you can easily find bulbs that give off a "xenon-like" color.

As for the color reflected by the bulb when off, heavily tinted ones or those with colored caps on the top will reflect that color during the day. If you want them to blend with the reflector, get bulbs with silver caps on top.

This is how the silverstar looks when off.(osram silverstar low beam, synvania silverstar high beam)



This is how the PIAA extreme white looks in my fog light.

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If you are looking for the best possible light output(lumens), then the answer is the Osram Silverstar H7 +50% halogen capsule; they were featured in a summer article of Roundel.
What he said.

I read the same article in Roundel and from all the graphs and testing, these have the highest lumens.



You can also purchasse them from Powerbulbs.com.
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thanks deutsch325 for the awesome explanations and links.
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Here ya go - bright H7s

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Hello fanatics,

Just trying to find what is the brighest H7 bulbs out there, something that compares to our xenons. Since one of my bulb burned out, I figure now is a good time to upgrade my DRL, H7 bulbs.

Any suggestions on name brand, model and any vendors here that sell them.

TIA for your replies.
Don't get the lame blue tinted bulbs. Adding tint to bulbs makes them DIMMER. Yellow tinting also makes them dimmer, but this tint has its uses for fog lights.
Also note that as the H7 bulbs (or any incandescent bulbs) age they slowly build up a film on the glass that makes them both dimmer and yellower. The so called "xenon" halogen bulbs use xenon gas to slow this process, not to actually create light the way HID bulbs do.

From http://www.danielsternlighting.com/p.../products.html

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* 55W Ultra High Efficacy Plus 50 (Narva RangePower+50, Osram Silverstar, Philips VisionPlus or Tungsram Megalicht*): $17.50/ea

* 65W Osram Ultra High Output (2100 lumen, H9 burner on H7 base, race and special-purpose use): $24.00/ea
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I was intrigued by reading the above post describing the H7 65 watt Osram high output bulb, but 500 hours seems like a very short life.. Maybe it's worth it for the +80% output.

BTW the 55 watt H7 Osram Silverstar +50% bulbs are on sale right now on ebay for $30 per pair(there is only one seller who carries this bulb, he's legit.) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OSRAM...QQcmdZViewItem

He sells the 65 watt too, it's $50
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Tell him what you want and he will reply. I don't know why they don't have a shopping cart or something. I want a set of the 65 watt bulbs myself. I don't see anything about a short lifespan. These are really H9 bulbs on H7 bases. Here is a description of the H9s and they don't mention a 500 hour lifespan and are used in some new cars as OEM headlights. I guess the "extremely white light color" maybe a clue to a shorter lifespan. If you run the bulbs hotter you get more light and a higher color temperature. Maybe I will just do highbeams with these and lowbeams with the +50s. BTW, don't bother with the GE high output H7s. I got one to replace a blown lowbeam and it mainly just distorts the pattern of the light. Waste of $12

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These new single-filament 65w bulbs are rapidly gaining popularity amongst automakers for use primarily in high-beam headlamps, often in conjunction with H11 bulbs for the low beams. H9 is an extremely high output design (2100 lumens) with an extremely white light color. As with H8 and H11, these are currently tough to find in the aftermarket.
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What he said.

I read the same article in Roundel and from all the graphs and testing, these have the highest lumens.



You can also purchasse them from Powerbulbs.com.

You are correct the Silverstars (euro version) have the best lumens out of any H7 Halogens I have seen to date.

Do not get the American Version they have the blue coating. Do not get any bulb with a color coating on them, you loose Lumens I dont care what the marketing says.
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Ive been looking at the Osram Cool Blue and SilverStar bulbs for a while now and I can't seem to find what the Color Temp is for the Osram SilverStars. I've found that the Cool Blues are 4000k, and the Sylvania "SilverStar is up to 4000K". Both of these 4000k bulbs have a blue coating, which I don't really want. Also does anyone know the temp of the SPP Superwhites?
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I have some really nice Phillips VisionPlus that I picked up in Germany, they are 50% more light and still 55w, no tint to them at all. I would sell them for $30 shipped because I can't use them in my car. They have never been out of the box.
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anyone know if they sell these bulbs in a 9006 size
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same question..this post ws started a year ago...just looking to see what the best and brighest is now?? any suggestions
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