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Old 01-21-2007, 11:52 PM   #1
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Opinons/ Where to buy Xenon bulbs ASAP

Well i took out my mothers 325i (an 2002) and i notice at night i cant see anything, im not blind. but i have a hard time seeing anything when it rains. her xenons have gone Pure White!

i Never had this problem with my old 325i becuz i had 8000k's. So should i upgrade her to 8000's? and What brand do you guys think is Best


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Old 01-22-2007, 12:39 AM   #2
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i dont know, but when its foggy 8,000 would not be a good alternative.

if your looking for bulbs i would recommend from experience

www.blinglights.com

there stuff is pretty high quality (but you pay for it)
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^ why is it not good in fog.

Ive had it in my old e46 and it looked okay. down here we dont get thick fog
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:59 AM   #4
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If you are having trouble seeing, don't go with 8000k. There is a trade off in the kelvin scale that when you increase the amount of K's, you do get a more blue color but you lose light output.

For this reason, I recommend going with 6000k. It is the perfect compromise between a pure white color temperature and maximum light output. Here is a comparison between our 6000k D2S bulbs (Left) and 4300k stock bulbs (Right) as well as the product page:

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Old 01-22-2007, 01:06 AM   #6
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^ why is it not good in fog.

Ive had it in my old e46 and it looked okay. down here we dont get thick fog
The issue with HID fogs is that fog reflects light back at the driver. This is why you never turn on your high beams in fogs but rather activate your fog lights so as to prevent any glare that would be caused by a more intense light output.

With that said, if you do not encounter fog very often, it is better to run HID fogs as you will put more visible light right in front of the car, thereby illuminating the road that much better. But as fog lights go, HIDs are poor alternatives to your stock fogs given their extreme brightness and glare issues in foggy conditions.
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Im looking to get Philips Ultinon Bulbs in either 8000k's if i can find it or the 6000k's.

are Philips Ultinon Bulbs good?
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Philips makes a great bulb but they are a bit pricey for what you get.
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Im looking for the BEST So is Philips the BEST for the money.
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:57 AM   #10
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The Philips ultinon bulbs are definitely one of the BEST around. You can get them on ebay for $150-$170 a pair. Also, www.xenondepot.com has them, but a little more expensive.
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Old 01-24-2007, 08:37 PM   #11
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With that said, if you do not encounter fog very often, it is better to run HID fogs as you will put more visible light right in front of the car, thereby illuminating the road that much better. But as fog lights go, HIDs are poor alternatives to your stock fogs given their extreme brightness and glare issues in foggy conditions.
sorry to hijack but, even if i get like a yellowish 3,000k foglight would there still be glare?
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Phillips Ultinon 6000k bulbs would be best to get. I wouldn't suggest going any higher than 6000k, cause after that, you'll pretty much killing the performance of your lights. I'm currently running 6000k bulbs on my car, and it's just about the same as 4300k, but with a blue tint to them.
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Damn my i just found out her Angel eyes blew out too. ****! yea i think im getting the philips
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:13 AM   #16
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sorry to hijack but, even if i get like a yellowish 3,000k foglight would there still be glare?
Yes, the glare results from the intensity of an HID headlight which is over 3x as bright as a halogen bulb.
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Yes, the glare results from the intensity of an HID headlight which is over 3x as bright as a halogen bulb.
HID's, especially in anything other than 4500k are usually only about 3000 lumens, halogens are 1500. Thats simple math, 2x as bright in actual output. The system uses 35w instead of 55w and is 3x as efficient however.

3000k 2800-3000
4500k puts out 3000-3200
6000k 2800-3000
8000k 2400-2800
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Will you notice 100 lumens, probably not, will it be measurable....sure.

As far as glare from foglights/highbeams. The glare isn't just a result of light intensity, its a result of the angle that the light hits the fog at.

Fog lights exist because they illuminate the ground from "under" the fog (from the drivers perspective) and the amount of reflected light that will shine back to the drivers eyes is minimized as compared with a higher mounting spot.

More light in any location will lead to more glare -> its common sense.

www.danielsternlgihting.com has some great articles on this.

Color has to do with internal reflection in the water, as well as refraction levels with the water, less blue and there is less chance of total internal reflection from the water = less glare.
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Thanks guys so much for the Info, ive made up my mind!
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:22 AM   #19
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i picked up 4300k phillips on ebay for $65 shipped, been working perfectly

you just have to look for deals. I'm sorry but $100+ for bulbs is really ridiculous.
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what kind of lights does my 2000 323i take?
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