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Old 03-24-2008, 04:49 PM   #1
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HackTheIBus Yahoo Group is Lagging

I've been trying to join the HackTheIBus group on Yahoo for about a month now.
Nobody has approved my membership.
I have noticed that they've had 5 new members within a week as of the end of last week.

Any idea why they are selectively adding people?
Besides the usual "Join This Group" procedure, can anything be done to speed up the approval process?
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Old 03-24-2008, 06:54 PM   #2
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:38 PM   #3
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80 views and nobody has a clue?
indeed.

Can someone bug the group admins there for me please?
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:54 PM   #4
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80 views and nobody has a clue?
indeed.

Can someone bug the group admins there for me please?
It wasn't until my 4th attempt that I finally got approved. And after all the links to it, I was sort of disappointed. There are some good posts, but most of the good docs and files aren't there anymore. I guess not many people are interested in the iBus now that something newer is out.

Sorry, I don't have any tips for you other than be patient. Well, that and try to sound like you have a good reason for being added in your email. I'd bug the admins but I think they'd probably respond by kicking me out
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Old 03-25-2008, 04:20 PM   #5
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It wasn't until my 4th attempt that I finally got approved. And after all the links to it, I was sort of disappointed. There are some good posts, but most of the good docs and files aren't there anymore. I guess not many people are interested in the iBus now that something newer is out.

Sorry, I don't have any tips for you other than be patient. Well, that and try to sound like you have a good reason for being added in your email. I'd bug the admins but I think they'd probably respond by kicking me out
Thanks for your reply d0e.

By saying that something newer is out, are you referring to the K-line? If not, what exactly then?

Here's what I think I know so far:
The I-bus is generally used to control the audio (and navigation) electronics, including the steering wheel controls.
It seems as though the best way to connect to the I-bus is via Reslers device.

The K-bus, on the other hand, controls a lot more, including:
DME Digital Motor Electronics
EGS Electronics gearbox control
EWS Electronics car immobilization system
ABS antilock-braking system with ASC/DSC
EHC electronic height control
A/C - Air Conditioning and HVAC
FGB Rear compartment blower
SRS Supplemental restraint system
IKE instrument cluster electronics
LCM Light check modules
GR2 Cruise control
PDC Park distance control
AIC Automatic interval control
RAD Radio (possibly including IBus?)
SZM Switching centre, centre console
NAV Navigation system (possibly including IBus?)
MID Multi-info display (possibly including IBus?)
ZKE Central body electronics
SMB Passenger seat memory
LSM Seat/steering wheel memory
EDC Electronic damper control
LEW Steering angle sensor
RDC Tyre pressure check
MFL Multi-function steering wheel (possibly including IBus?)
DSP Digital sound processor (possibly including IBus?)
BMBT On-board monitor, control panel
VID Video Module
SES Language input system
Tel car telephone (possibly including IBus?)
HKM Boot lid module
LRA Automatic headlight vertical aim control
FID Multi info display rear
Notice all those "(possibly including IBus?)" comments I've added. This is where I think the technologies overlap.
I wanted to confirm this by running a thorough search within the messageboard on the Yahoo Group.

So far, I know of three ways to connect to the K-Bus:
GT1 DIS, P.A.Soft, and Carsoft.

If I can confirm that I can have the same functionality of the I-Bus with the use of the K-Bus, then I might as well ditch the I-Bus and "Hack the K-Bus" instead.
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:56 PM   #6
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i believe hacktheibus yahoo group is RIP.. ive been researching the i/k bus and doing some testing im working on a little project

you can connect to the ibus with a 40$ interface (or you can build it) and some simple vb applications that are available
i believe one website that has ibus info is mp3car.com IIRC
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:03 PM   #7
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i believe hacktheibus yahoo group is RIP.. ive been researching the i/k bus and doing some testing im working on a little project

you can connect to the ibus with a 40$ interface (or you can build it) and some simple vb applications that are available
i believe one website that has ibus info is mp3car.com IIRC
I am interested to see what kind of results did you research on the K-Bus yield?
Did you connect to it using one of the three interfaces I've mentioned, or did you make your own?

Funny that you mention mp3Car.com, I've been an active member there for about three years now.

This will be my fifth carputer in my third car to date. I just want to put a lot more planning with the advanced features (total car control) now that I've gotten so good with the basics (audio, video, and navigation).
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:05 PM   #8
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Thanks for your reply d0e.

By saying that something newer is out, are you referring to the K-line? If not, what exactly then?

Here's what I think I know so far:
The I-bus is generally used to control the audio (and navigation) electronics, including the steering wheel controls.
It seems as though the best way to connect to the I-bus is via Reslers device.

The K-bus, on the other hand, controls a lot more, including:
DME Digital Motor Electronics
EGS Electronics gearbox control
EWS Electronics car immobilization system
ABS antilock-braking system with ASC/DSC
EHC electronic height control
A/C - Air Conditioning and HVAC
FGB Rear compartment blower
SRS Supplemental restraint system
IKE instrument cluster electronics
LCM Light check modules
GR2 Cruise control
PDC Park distance control
AIC Automatic interval control
RAD Radio (possibly including IBus?)
SZM Switching centre, centre console
NAV Navigation system (possibly including IBus?)
MID Multi-info display (possibly including IBus?)
ZKE Central body electronics
SMB Passenger seat memory
LSM Seat/steering wheel memory
EDC Electronic damper control
LEW Steering angle sensor
RDC Tyre pressure check
MFL Multi-function steering wheel (possibly including IBus?)
DSP Digital sound processor (possibly including IBus?)
BMBT On-board monitor, control panel
VID Video Module
SES Language input system
Tel car telephone (possibly including IBus?)
HKM Boot lid module
LRA Automatic headlight vertical aim control
FID Multi info display rear
Notice all those "(possibly including IBus?)" comments I've added. This is where I think the technologies overlap.
I wanted to confirm this by running a thorough search within the messageboard on the Yahoo Group.

So far, I know of three ways to connect to the K-Bus:
GT1 DIS, P.A.Soft, and Carsoft.

If I can confirm that I can have the same functionality of the I-Bus with the use of the K-Bus, then I might as well ditch the I-Bus and "Hack the K-Bus" instead.
By "newer" I was referring to the MOST bus (fiber optics) that e90's and other newer BMW's use. Unfortunately, a lost of the good resources have since disappeared, like hacktheibus.com.

I haven't messed much with the k-bus, but I think most things I was looking for for my carPC are on the iBus (GPS coords, steering wheel controls, on-board monitor buttons, plus the DICE and sirius). AFAIK, lights and telephone/bluetooth are also sent over the ibus, while lower level things (LCM, headlight aiming, braking) are only available via the k-bus.

It's a pretty cool system, so it's too bad development on things related has slowed/stopped. I'm finding that I need to write most things I want myself. good luck with your carPC!
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:19 PM   #9
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What I am most interested in determining how I can use bluetooth in my car and still use the microphone that is installed for the phone system. Has anyone been able to hack that?
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:45 PM   #10
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i just use an external gps thru my carpc.

but i can't seem to get my resler's ibus controller to work properly
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