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Old 07-03-2008, 05:32 PM   #1
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Bushing upgrade opinions...

I'm thinking I'm going to freshen up my suspension sometime next week and I just wanted to get some opinions on what I should get.

Front axle:
FCABs
New Turner adjustable end-links
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Hub extenders

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RTAB Limiters
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After seeing BlueJeansOnFire's unfortunate incident with the Powerflex FCABs, I'm thinking that I should go with the "M3" variant. Although I'm not one to care too much about vibration transfer, noise, ride quality, etc., I AM concerned about losing a control arm What do you think?

Turner endlinks...there are two kinds...the first is $155.99 for the pair while the second is $99.95 a piece. I'm assuming a pair of the latter is better? Any input? Are there any other BETTER alternatives? So far, I haven't been able to find any.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...MS-ADJ-SBLINKS
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...D=31351134582A

Studs and hub extenders...because I really need them. These are 75mm. I run a 5mm spacer on the front but may run up to a 20mm spacer for some different track wheels I'm looking at. Would these be long enough or should I go with an 80mm or 90mm stud? Also, will the hub extender allow the wheel to be put on properly even if I'm only running a 5mm spacer? Or will it not allow it to contact the hub?
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...DUCT_ID=921051
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TWH9905001

For the rear, I'm looking at the Turner limiter kit paired with Meyle HD bushings. However, I know that Rogue Engineering makes some really good RTABs too. If I get the RE RTABs, should I get the limiters too or would that be redundant? If not, would they make the assembly so stiff that I would be putting a lot of unwanted stress on the trailing-arm mounting points?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TSU9990001
http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merc...t_Code=RE_RTAB

Additionally, I'm thinking:

SS Clutch Line

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=SSCLC160

Your input would be greatly appreciated. TIA
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:58 AM   #2
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FCAB - There are new PF pieces, I have a set, not worried about them.

Endlinks - Do you have the ability to adjust your ride height at each corner? If not, don't bother.

Spacers/studs - This is wheel dependant. You need to make some measurements or trial fit with 1 stud.

RTAB - Get the Polyflex pieces and be done with it. You won't need "limiters" and they are fairly easy to install. (Pulling out the stock RTABs is the PITA) I ran these for a season, they don't feel harsh at all.

SS Clutch line - Don't bother, unless you are looking to launch a 4.5" triple disk clutch and need every iota of feel you can get.
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:55 AM   #3
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FCAB - There are new PF pieces, I have a set, not worried about them.
On your race car? Why no run Sphericals on your car? Or atleast do the TMS/TCK delrin ones...
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On your race car? Why no run Sphericals on your car? Or atleast do the TMS/TCK delrin ones...
Um...I have those too.

I have multiples of a lot of things.....cylinder heads, diffs, clutches, suspension bits. I was thinking of drawing the line at 3 intake plenums though...
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Um...I have those too.

I have multiples of a lot of things.....cylinder heads, diffs, clutches, suspension bits. I was thinking of drawing the line at 3 intake plenums though...
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FCAB - There are new PF pieces, I have a set, not worried about them.
Powerflex?

I'll look into it. They're just Poly, right?

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Endlinks - Do you have the ability to adjust your ride height at each corner? If not, don't bother.
...of course. So which do you think are the better links? I've been getting mixed reviews about them from others...especially regarding the ball-joints. I don't want to call Turner and ask them because from my experiences, their telephone reps are not very knowledgable...and biased, at that.

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Spacers/studs - This is wheel dependant. You need to make some measurements or trial fit with 1 stud.
I figured that would be the case...never hurts to ask.

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RTAB - Get the Polyflex pieces and be done with it. You won't need "limiters" and they are fairly easy to install. (Pulling out the stock RTABs is the PITA) I ran these for a season, they don't feel harsh at all.
I'll also look into these...

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SS Clutch line - Don't bother, unless you are looking to launch a 4.5" triple disk clutch and need every iota of feel you can get.
Drove my buddy's car and I did like the stiffer pedal feel...since it's only $30 or so, I'll probably just get it as a commodity.

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For endlinks another option would be Mason engineering, they sell spherical bearing front and rear adjustable endlinks for 145 or so a set. I would have gotten em but i already ordered the TMS ones.
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For the rear, just buy the off the shelf spherical bushings (upper inner rear control arm and rear toe). Get solid subframe bushings and use a lower rear control arm that made of aluminum so when you wreck the car, the bar bends and you don't destroy the trailing arm. Then buy the rear outer upper control arm bushings and install them in the outer lower control arm position.

At that point, you'll have a solid rear suspension ready for the track.

For me, I can't do that so I have to run my delrin ones that meet the letter of the law but cost a fortune to make.
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For the rear, just buy the off the shelf spherical bushings (upper inner rear control arm and rear toe). Get solid subframe bushings and use a lower rear control arm that made of aluminum so when you wreck the car, the bar bends and you don't destroy the trailing arm. Then buy the rear outer upper control arm bushings and install them in the outer lower control arm position.

At that point, you'll have a solid rear suspension ready for the track.

For me, I can't do that so I have to run my delrin ones that meet the letter of the law but cost a fortune to make.
I think that's what I've done? Except my lower control arm is the steel GC piece...hmmmm
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