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Old 05-19-2003, 10:59 PM   #1
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a/d/s 346is install

I have a 328Ci

- how much work is required to install the a/d/s in the front doors?
- after installing these, will I be able to revert to stock easily?
- will I need to make a mounting plate like whjeffs did?

I'm seeing conflicting information regarding how much work is required:

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I put a/d/s/ 346is components in the doors. Pics can be seen on this thread on bimmervibe http://www.bimmervibe.com/phorum/sh...s=&threadid=198
What I ended up buying was the a/d/s/ 346is components. They are the same overall depth & diameter as the factory HK speakers so space is not a problem for them in the panel. I am trying to figure out the best way to mount them though. They don't match up perfectly with the mounting rings of the factory speaker unless I was to file down the frames of the a/d/s/ woofers which I really don't want to do!
I will probably make a mounting plate out of MDF. I really want to focus on making sure they are sealed from front to back. If the resulting midbass is still not what I want I may still cut a hole in the door behind the woofer just so it can use the door as an enclosure and seal the panel to the door with some foam.
I'll post pics of the progress.



http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ighlight=346is
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I have a 330Ci and am running a similar setup. I am running A/D/S 346is in the front doors with only a very small modification to get the mid to fit properly.

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Go with a bigger size!
I went with 346is' in the front, and 346im's in the back. They fit with no problems. You'll get better sound out of the 6.5" vs. the 5.25".

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ighlight=346is
I put the speakers in last weekend, and hooked up the amp this weekend. Sounds amazing!

The 346is components fit fine in the stock locations, barely any mods necessary. I was able to put the tweeters in the stock midrange location, just popped right in. I left the stock tweeters in the bracket, but disconnected.

For the woofers, I just pried the stock mounting brackets off the H/K speakers, and put the a/d/s mounting bracket right on top, using some foam as filler. No problems with depth, the doors just popped back on.

I'll post some pictures tomorrow night if people are interested...
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Old 05-20-2003, 05:21 AM   #2
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Here is a pic of the plate I made to mount them. I'm not sure now if it was really necessary to make the plate fill in the entire area. I may do it differently when the new car comes in.
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Old 05-20-2003, 05:22 AM   #3
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I may just try a simpler plate like this. Although I'd still like to know how this guy got these Focals to fit. Looks like the mounting depth is way too deep.
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:02 PM   #4
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whjeffs: thanks for replying!

how many hours did it take you to get them in? (including time to build the plates)
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:19 PM   #5
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I didn't really keep track of how long it took. I didn't do it all at one time. I'd guess about 2 to 3 hours of actual work, including removing and reinstalling the panels, applying the sound dampening sheets to the panel, designing and building the plates, and wiring them up.
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Old 05-21-2003, 10:05 AM   #6
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I'd still like to know how this guy got these Focals to fit. Looks like the mounting depth is way too deep.
He had to cut a hole in the door. It's the only way.



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Old 05-21-2003, 01:37 PM   #7
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I'm pretty sure that pic of the Focals was on a coupe though. There is a part of the window mechanism that attaches to the door directly behind the speaker on the coupe. I looked into doing it on mine and it doesn't look like it can be done because of this. Sedan doors are different and can be cut out.
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I'm pretty sure that pic of the Focals was on a coupe though. There is a part of the window mechanism that attaches to the door directly behind the speaker on the coupe. I looked into doing it on mine and it doesn't look like it can be done because of this. Sedan doors are different and can be cut out.

I haven't looked back there yet but there's no other way that the door panels will ever touch the door with that big speaker without cuttin away some metal.
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Old 05-26-2003, 12:33 AM   #9
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Re: a/d/s 346is install

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I have a 328Ci

- how much work is required to install the a/d/s in the front doors?
- after installing these, will I be able to revert to stock easily?
- will I need to make a mounting plate like whjeffs did?
From what I did, my answers to your questions are:

1. Not much
2. Yes
2. No

I actually pried off the stock mounting plates from the h/k speakers, and then used them with the a/d/s mounting brackets. They're only glued on, and would only take a couple hours for me to return to stock.

I put some pictures up here.
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Old 05-26-2003, 01:21 AM   #10
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I support SpaceMonkey's answers.

Here's my pic. I did even less work than SpaceMonkey.

I used the old HK mounting ring and just sliped it over the 346is woofer. The tension of the ring bolted to the door holds the a/d/s woofer securely in place.

The fuzz you see is polyfill gone wild!
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Old 05-26-2003, 11:12 AM   #11
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Re: Re: a/d/s 346is install

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From what I did, my answers to your questions are:

1. Not much
2. Yes
2. No

I actually pried off the stock mounting plates from the h/k speakers, and then used them with the a/d/s mounting brackets. They're only glued on, and would only take a couple hours for me to return to stock.

I put some pictures up here.
Nice work. How did you mount the amp?




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Old 05-26-2003, 02:07 PM   #12
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how much did u guys buy your ADS 346 ?
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Old 05-27-2003, 01:32 AM   #13
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Nice work. How did you mount the amp?

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Check out my stealth amp install...

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...3155118&page=2
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Old 05-27-2003, 04:31 PM   #14
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I love that box idea. Mind if I steal.....errr use it for my sedan?
It looks like it would work with the sedan as well.

Hota,

Where did you get the wiring diagram as to what's what?
Do you have it written down? Is it on the web so I could get a copy?

Thanks.

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Hota,

Where did you get the wiring diagram as to what's what?
Do you have it written down? Is it on the web so I could get a copy?

TT
The wiring diagram is located at the bottom of William's HK Upgrade page. The link to William's page is embedded in the beginning of my page:

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...3155118&page=2
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