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Old 02-18-2008, 01:45 AM   #101
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ahhh i didnt know that, thanks racingray!

one more thing to anyone who knows, whats the difference between AMG and Mclaren ??? arent they both mercedes special tuning entities?

i cant wait to see the new csl though!
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:50 AM   #102
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I may be WAAAY wrong but isn't Mclaren a UK based tuner that just happens to use merc parts???
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:53 AM   #103
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McLaren is an independent British racing company that cooperates with Mercedes, for instance the Formula1 and the SLR.
AMG is like the M GmbH of BMW though. They rebuild sports luxury vehicles exclusively for Mercedes. They reside in Affalterbach, Germany, close to Stuttgart, where Daimler (MB) has their headquarters.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:31 AM   #104
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now that is what i call an answer! thankz racing ray

on another note, i quite like companies working together using their finest engineering skills to produce the most amazing hypercar (im referring to the mclaren f1)

i mean without collaboration and competition the human race would never advance e.g. the russian and american space race
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:57 AM   #105
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Sweet! CSL's will have 2 different sets of wheels
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:41 PM   #106
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The HP figures might be slightly higher, but look at the torque numbers. That's the reason for the displacement and turbos.

e92 M3 - 414hp 295lb ft
c63AMG - 451hp 443lb ft
RS5 - 450hp 500lb ft

The RS5 engine is the same 4.2 liter engine in the rs4/r8. We know that's already a peppy engine. I'm guessing tuners will have a field day with the turbos...

Kinda off topic but what's the purpose of the S now? Because it can't really compete with the M?
Audi can't justify charging nearly 50K for an A4/5 with 340hp that competes with a "regular" 335i.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:49 PM   #107
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:12 AM   #109
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There is no CSL coming this model year... sorry...
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As far as I know there will be no CSL as we would expect it. Supposedly, they are working on a superior version of the current M3, but there is no confirmation. Some BMW representatives may even deny this.

All that is sure is that there will be a 135tii, a commercial version of the CS concept an possibly an M1. No CSL or CSL-esque M3 is in the making, but probably a higher powered, lightweight M3 (non-GTR).
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