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Old 10-19-2008, 09:10 PM   #21
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:28 AM   #22
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I went from an EVO 8 to a 05 S2000 to my 330Ci 5spd and I learned a lot from each.

***Watch Tsuchiya's Drift Bible*** Corny, I know..
As you stated, without a LSD, you have to count on speed and weight transfer. The best techniques for these are the feint (body roll), brake (hard braking), and the lift (throttle off).

My favorite place to apply the lift and brake is the on/off hwy ramps. They usually have a long strip of road for an approach and the bend is equally as long. The lift can most noteably be noticed on a highspeed on ramp in the turn where the bend gets a lil bit tighter midway thru the bend. You'll feel the back end step out and at that point, just cut harder, feather off the throttle, and get ready to counter. Your' best practice should be done in the wet as it's more forgiving.
Once you're into a drift, you can use clutch-kicks to keep the wheel spinning.

It's all about speed on an open diff.
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:58 AM   #23
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how the hell can andy sapps car get so much wheel spin with just intake, software, exhaust and headers?
no FI at all?
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:59 PM   #24
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how the hell can andy sapps car get so much wheel spin with just intake, software, exhaust and headers?
no FI at all?
he has LSD, and i'm pretty sure his car stripped out making it even lighter
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I went from an EVO 8 to a 05 S2000 to my 330Ci 5spd and I learned a lot from each.

***Watch Tsuchiya's Drift Bible*** Corny, I know..
As you stated, without a LSD, you have to count on speed and weight transfer. The best techniques for these are the feint (body roll), brake (hard braking), and the lift (throttle off).

My favorite place to apply the lift and brake is the on/off hwy ramps. They usually have a long strip of road for an approach and the bend is equally as long. The lift can most noteably be noticed on a highspeed on ramp in the turn where the bend gets a lil bit tighter midway thru the bend. You'll feel the back end step out and at that point, just cut harder, feather off the throttle, and get ready to counter. Your' best practice should be done in the wet as it's more forgiving.
Once you're into a drift, you can use clutch-kicks to keep the wheel spinning.

It's all about speed on an open diff.
lol i love the drift bible. it was so useful
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:23 PM   #26
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A stock 325 can get the rear out and hold it with a 3.46 LSD. While it is easier with a lot of power, it's not impossible without it.

Clutch kicking caused my subframe to tear out Had that fixed/reinforced though, so I'm back on it
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A stock 325 can get the rear out and hold it with a 3.46 LSD. While it is easier with a lot of power, it's not impossible without it.

Clutch kicking caused my subframe to tear out Had that fixed/reinforced though, so I'm back on it
i always use powerover... clutch kick is for when my slide gets weak and i need to give it a slap in the back ...
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:07 AM   #28
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I want an LSD for my 320d as well, I can drift it pretty good in the wet but in the dry its pretty useless unless you use lots of sudden weight transfer, a little clip from my last trackday at Cadwell this year when I decided to start messing around



If I can do it in a Diesel and open diff im sure you should be fine with some practice in a petrol ( which yours surely is being an American ? )

Its definately far easier to drift in my E34 525i Sport with the LSD, wet or dry.

If anyone can link to an LSD suitable for my 320d I would be most appreciative.

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Old 11-01-2008, 01:11 PM   #29
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btw, I do track the car at DE's and such, but its really expensive being a student and all to fork out $500 for a weekend
I'm not sure you're gonna find drifting events less expensive when you factor in the tire budget.

But I've only done racing and DE, never drifting, so maybe they don't go through tires as fast as I think they do.
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