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Old 12-12-2008, 04:43 PM   #1
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p46 --> new led angel eyes?

I searched, but this is probably a repost. Oh well.

So I have p46's from a long time ago, with the ccfl rings in them. I want to upgrade to the new led angel eyes, can I?
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:47 PM   #2
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that is exactly what i want to do. i was told that i would have to remove the old rings, which are apparently held in by dabs of glue and then install the new led rings by using some glue to secure them into place as well. I just ordered some and am going to give it a try.
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:54 PM   #3
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yes you can, by doing what his said
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:11 PM   #4
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Absolutely - the aurora kits fit perfectly in the DEPOs.

Just to let you know, P46, Projector46 & DEPO are all the same thing, just different names.
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The Projector46 was first modified and introduced by Umnitza.
You can see proof of this back in 2004+ = which means, that not only did we originate the idea, we also technically own the name. If others will name them Projectors for the E46, that will be more accurate.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ht=projector46
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http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ht=projector46
And there are many many many more.

We don't pursue all the vendors that make usage of our naming convention, but the truth still does need to be out there.

Having said all that, if you would like some information on how to modify it, feel free to email us.
We offer 2 upgrade solutions using our Orion product for this.

Orion "Lite" which is the same basic 60+ LED version (not on the site) for customers that already have P46s with CCFL based rings but don't want to go for the maximum brightness ones.
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Orion V2 which is the brightest available.
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The Projector46 was first modified and introduced by Umnitza.
You can see proof of this back in 2004+ = which means, that not only did we originate the idea, we also technically own the name. If others will name them Projectors for the E46, that will be more accurate.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ht=projector46
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ht=projector46
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ht=projector46
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ht=projector46
And there are many many many more.

We don't pursue all the vendors that make usage of our naming convention, but the truth still does need to be out there.

Having said all that, if you would like some information on how to modify it, feel free to email us.
We offer 2 upgrade solutions using our Orion product for this.

Orion "Lite" which is the same basic 60+ LED version (not on the site) for customers that already have P46s with CCFL based rings but don't want to go for the maximum brightness ones.
And
Orion V2 which is the brightest available.
And yet another reason i doubt i will ever use umintza, too much i am better then everyone and my sh** don't smell attitude.

And now to add something usefull sillieidiot is right, just take your time like anything else don't do it when in a hurry or you don't have time.
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:53 PM   #7
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And yet another reason i doubt i will ever use umintza, too much i am better then everyone and my sh** don't smell attitude.

And now to add something usefull sillieidiot is right, just take your time like anything else don't do it when in a hurry or you don't have time.
however you take it, it's not ok for others to take ideas and run with them as their own, gotta protect the brand equity. our products don't have that "me too" part of it. I'm not saying my wheels are better than any one else's or anything else. Just that we've been doing this for a while, so when someone says Projector46, P46, know where it came from that's all.
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And yet another reason i doubt i will ever use umintza, too much i am better then everyone and my sh** don't smell attitude.

And now to add something usefull sillieidiot is right, just take your time like anything else don't do it when in a hurry or you don't have time.
I do agree with you on that they are always saying there product is the best... but no need to bash like that. Although it does come off in a bad way for umnitza, you have to think...they are just a business tryin to make that dough. But as far i have seen, they actually are the brightest and best. Thats why i ordered them. and without them advertising their product like this, i would have bought ccfl.
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I do agree with you on that they are always saying there product is the best... but no need to bash like that. Although it does come off in a bad way for umnitza, you have to think...they are just a business tryin to make that dough. But as far i have seen, they actually are the brightest and best. Thats why i ordered them. and without them advertising their product like this, i would have bought ccfl.
Ok, how's this for a change

D2S 6K Bulbs? Same as all the others.
Bumpers? Same as all the others - a lot cheaper on shipping and faster, but the same.
DEPO parts? Same - except where we modify them - like the P46s.
Eagle Eyes - same - again only due to cheaper shipping.

See, not all our parts are "the best" but when it comes to our angel eyes and craftmanship on our lights, gotta say what we gotta say
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:17 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info guys- I was looking at the orions and the auroras, just wanted to make sure it was doable since I couldn't find any info from a search.
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Ok, how's this for a change

D2S 6K Bulbs? Same as all the others.
Bumpers? Same as all the others - a lot cheaper on shipping and faster, but the same.
DEPO parts? Same - except where we modify them - like the P46s.
Eagle Eyes - same - again only due to cheaper shipping.

See, not all our parts are "the best" but when it comes to our angel eyes and craftmanship on our lights, gotta say what we gotta say
haha thats how it comes off that way. You make it seem that everything is better in some way or fashion (when in some cases it is).
But hey, it doesn't bother me at all! but i do see how it might bother some
But I have to say, i love my predator orion v2
And if it wasn't for how much you advertise the product, i wouldn't have bought them
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I heard you can simply pull apart the LED circuit board found in both MyCarr 62 LED or Predator Orion V2, and replace it with the boards found stock in DEPO P46 headlights.
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You could install LED angel eyes in the P46's but it's a very tedious job. You will also have to be careful as to not break/damage the headlights.
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Its not tedious at all, very simple for the DIY type.

We encourage those to give it a try themselves.
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Pretty easy to DIY if you are handy or patient.

I just finished upgrading to Orion 62+ LED V2’s with my P46/Depo/whatever you want to call them last night. I just went ahead and super glued my V2’s over my old built in CCFL’s (decided to replace them after ballast problems ). The V2’s were a little bit smaller so I mocked it up and it would have looked funny if I removed the old clear ring.

If you are going to do it I would recommend just cutting off the mounting tabs and super gluing them over the old ones while they are in the headlight. It came out looking good. I will try to post pics when I can get some shots of them.

*Disclaimer* I am not sure if super glue was the best thing to use, not sure how it does with heat but it’s what I had on hand and I am impatient . Maybe epoxy would be a better bet, do some research and go with your findings.
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yea superglue is not a good idea. but depending on how much you used, it could be negligible
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yea superglue is not a good idea. but depending on how much you used, it could be negligible
in almost every instance superglue is a bad idea.
use a softer - longer drying - silicon or what we use - QUICK GRIP.
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I thought I would post my experience with the upgrade....

Ordered a set of the orions from Mike@F1Autohaus, couldn't beat the price he was selling them at!

well, anyway, on with the pics. Also, let me apologize in advance for the crummy pics, our old digital camera is not awesome. Luckily there is a d40 under the christmas tree.....
Here is my headlight on my desk, ready to be operated on:


Without the lens cover:


BTW, the lens cover was incredibly hard to get off, the seal was not wanting to part with the lens, and the plastic body of the p46 has become brittle and easily breaks if you force it.

without the inside liner:


Here you can see how the angle eyes in the p46 are, nice setup for these rings. Not sure if they have changed over the years, I got these in 2004.


You have to pry the cover off at four points, they are easy to spot because they are a bit darker.


there they are:


Both the ballasts were all melted by the way:


Here is what the new LED rings look like with their wiring harness:


new rings with the wires tucked into the body:


This is obviously the problem you will run into when upgrading the p46's:


off with your legs!! I used some snips I had in a precision tool kit.


This is what they look like sitting against the p46 with the legs removed:


I know you guys said not to use super glue, but I used a dab of gorilla glue at the tops and in the middle of the bottom to hold it steady while the silicon dried.


here they are almost ready:


Oedipus car!!


Like I said, our camera sucks, but you can tell they are really bright and a perfect match for my 6000K lamps.
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While you did great work, this is not the best way to install it.
The best is to remove the parts directly out of the "U" Orion V2 kit. And getting it inserted into the P46 covers.
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While you did great work, this is not the best way to install it.
The best is to remove the parts directly out of the "U" Orion V2 kit. And getting it inserted into the P46 covers.
yeah, I know, but I didn't want to do that.
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