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Old 06-23-2002, 01:50 AM   #1
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How often would you guys recommend Waxing the car?

I just got my car last month, and have waxed it once using the waterbased zymol.

It kinda comes off after a week or so, but I know that it's recommended to wax the car just maybe around 5 times annually.

So is it bad to wax it like once a month?
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Old 06-23-2002, 02:16 AM   #2
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its never bad to over wax ur car...its like adding more and more layers of protectant..at some point u may wax so much ull see the build up, but its still protecting the cars paint...so wax away
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Old 06-23-2002, 02:19 AM   #3
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i've only waxed my car 1x. takes too long for me and i don't have much patience to wax for 3-4 hours. buffing in circles

but i have waxked my car once. the hood takes too long to wax tho.

after i wax my car after driving in the rain, dust and all the elements.. the paint isnt as smooth..

in 4 months i've had my car.. did it once.. :tongue:
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Old 06-23-2002, 02:21 AM   #4
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the build-up might be difficult to remove..
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Old 06-23-2002, 02:24 AM   #5
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I use Meguiars quick detail every week
Use Quick wax once a month
Do a 3 step (clean, polish, wax) and scratchX 4 times a year.
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Old 06-23-2002, 02:29 AM   #6
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yea.. the quick detail sounds more reasonable to do 1x a week. prob takes less than 1 hour to do a quick detail.

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Old 06-23-2002, 03:36 AM   #7
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Wax it every other week along with a polish.
My car is probably the lightest color steel blue you'll ever see.
Going to clay bar it soon too.
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Old 06-23-2002, 04:17 AM   #8
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don't wax in circles... it can leave swirl marks

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Old 06-23-2002, 10:16 AM   #9
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Out of curiosity what kind of Zymol are you using? Is it the blue liquid stuff in the plastic bottle that you can buy a walmart? Its about 16 bucks or so.

I'm asking because a friend and I stripped all the wax from from his cars trunk lid and divided it into about 6 or so sections. Then we waxed each section w/ a different brand of wax. I think we tried Blitz, Meguiars 27 or 17 - i'm not sure of the number, some crappy 3 dollar wax from walmart, zep pro wax, and Zymol. We found that Blitz and Meguiars created slightly better shine but the main difference was the durability. About a week later the Blitz and Meguiars were going strong, but the other waxes failied to bead water very well. Keep in mind that the Zymol costs just as much as the Blitz and Meguiars.

Hope this helps some of you.
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Old 06-23-2002, 10:24 AM   #10
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i'd do it twice a month. i can usually do it once a month. it's about enjoyment, and pride in your car. it may be hard work, but there are few things as rewarding as waxing that bitch up, cruising around and watching the heads turn...wax often! it will only protect your car in the long run.

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Old 06-23-2002, 11:42 AM   #11
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Why is it that I can never get all of the "wax dust" off of the car afterward? What do you guys use to remove the dust? I have a power waxer, but still, the friggin dust..
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Old 06-23-2002, 02:55 PM   #12
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Any DIY threads on proper application of the wax products...I have to say that I'm guilty of doing the polish in circles and have paid for it badly in the past with the swirl marks afterwards...TIA


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Old 06-23-2002, 02:59 PM   #13
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Question i'm lost

how do you apply/remove wax without using a circular motion? any other way seems un-natural. i am not doubting the end results (swirl marks, etc.) but i just don't know any other way...
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Old 06-23-2002, 03:01 PM   #14
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Re: i'm lost

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how do you apply/remove wax without using a circular motion? any other way seems un-natural. i am not doubting the end results (swirl marks, etc.) but i just don't know any other way...
Me either... How is that possible? Buffers are even circular and spin. That's a circle to me. I've never seen a buffer that moves like a sander......
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Old 06-23-2002, 11:06 PM   #15
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He speaks the truth. You can find it on www.autodetail.com ...it says to go side to side only, not circular.

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Old 06-23-2002, 11:13 PM   #16
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wax when water stops "beading" on the flat surfaces of your paint.

to get wax dust off that won't come off with a simple wiping with a clean towel, use quik detailer. If your black moldings get wax residue on it that's impossible to remove, put some peanut butter on it (honestly!)

btw, if you have a lotta wax dust after you buff, you may be using too thick a coat. A thick coat doesn't really protect your car any more than a thinner one with good coverage.
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Old 06-23-2002, 11:45 PM   #17
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Here is the truth about swirl marks and where they come from: There are three types and causes of swirl marks.
First, what is commonly referred to as "spider webbing" is a condition characterized by small, shallow scratches. These are usually caused by tiny abrasive dust and dirt particles that do not pre-rinse off when the vehicle is washed by hand or machine, which are then moved along the surface of the paint. The results are hairline scratches. Even when a vehicle is driven, some of these airborne particles can hit portions of the painted surfaces, leaving tiny scratches.

Present paint-coating technology, chemistry or mechanical washing cannot completely prevent this problem. However, some of the newer automotive paint coatings are more scratch resistant, but recent advances in chemical and mechanical system technology have helped in minimizing this problem.

Secondly, excessive detail product or chemical residues such as oils, silicones or waxes can cause superficial swirl marks. These residues remain on the paint surfaces sometimes in patterns left by hand-application motion or mechanical buffers. The oily residues usually have not had proper "drying" time before attempting to wipe off the excess; therefore it streaks and smears. In many cases when wax products are applied on hot surfaces, solvents can evaporate too quickly and leave residues that are difficult to remove.

The most common and the most severe swirl mark conditions are primarily caused by high speed buffing with wool pads. These "C-swirls" are named for the C-shaped pattern that is created. C-swirls are also created by

heavy abrasion compounds
pressure or friction of buffing application
angle of buffing application
speed and direction of buffing application.
Synthetic fiber or wool blend buffing pads can help reduce friction and therefore lessen the severity of C-swirls but may still leave some marks that need to be removed.

Each of these factors determines the severity of depth, width and length of these patterned scratches as well as the quantity. In any case, these swirl marks or patterned scratches are unsightly and counterproductive. While C-swirls are sometimes an unavoidable result of reconditioning a vehicle, especially when removing heavy scratches or acid rain damage, minimizing the friction created by the buffing process and training employees on proper use of high-speed buffers can reduce swirl removal time.
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Old 06-24-2002, 12:16 AM   #18
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just get some Zaino and do it the right way.
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