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Old 04-25-2009, 04:03 AM   #1
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Test Drove New M3 today :drool:

So I went out looking for a Porsche 911 C4S (996) today and ended up test driving a new M3. OMG - what can you say - the thing is bad a55. It sounds incredible. It's new so of course everything is ultra-crisp in the way it shifts and handles. I like the car a lot and it will probably stomp a Porsche C4S, stock to stock, it's more practicle but the Porsche just looks hot. I'm not sure the power bulge on the hood really looks that great from the drivers seat. Under the hood the M3 is a monster! It pulls like a jet on takeoff. In the end I climbed back in my 330 Ci...
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:27 AM   #2
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the fact that you're comparing a car that's 4-11 years older than a new M3 should tell you about what you get for your money. And you won't find many 996s with a warranty. The Porsche is a fantastic car, but I don't know that a newer, used, out-of-warranty one is that car I'd buy (even if I could).
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:34 AM   #3
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:58 AM   #4
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I'm sure the m3 felt great, but to be honest, bmw's are getting insanely too complicated with so many options to choose from in the computer.

Being able to switch differentials or go into M mode is kind of ridiculous for the DD. I personally don't want to push all kinds of buttons to drive a certain way. I simply want a car that will perform well w/o having to engage certain buttons.
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I'm sure the m3 felt great, but to be honest, bmw's are getting insanely too complicated with so many options to choose from in the computer.

Being able to switch differentials or go into M mode is kind of ridiculous for the DD. I personally don't want to push all kinds of buttons to drive a certain way. I simply want a car that will perform well w/o having to engage certain buttons.
They're also getting way too fat. FTL.
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fat = sexy..
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unless you care about handling. the e90/92 is a pig, especially the m3.
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I'm sure the m3 felt great, but to be honest, bmw's are getting insanely too complicated with so many options to choose from in the computer.

Being able to switch differentials or go into M mode is kind of ridiculous for the DD. I personally don't want to push all kinds of buttons to drive a certain way. I simply want a car that will perform well w/o having to engage certain buttons.
See thats the trade off you make - the M3 is a fantastic performing car, but letting it decide when it wants to launch like a rocket as opposed to comfort and low fuel consumption is a hindrance all around. Having you decide is the only viable way to have it perform like a track car when you need and then be able to drive it home. It's the only way its going to be able to be doubled as a daily driver and its more of a blessing than a downfall. In my opinion, there aren't really that many options anyway.
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Porsche > BMW any day and I know I'll probably get **** for it but it's true. That's not to take anything away from BMW but I'd take a 911 over an ///M3 anyday of the week. The most ideal situation would be a nice ///M3 Sedan as a daily driver and a Porsche as a weekend car.
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I'm sure the m3 felt great, but to be honest, bmw's are getting insanely too complicated with so many options to choose from in the computer.

Being able to switch differentials or go into M mode is kind of ridiculous for the DD. I personally don't want to push all kinds of buttons to drive a certain way. I simply want a car that will perform well w/o having to engage certain buttons.

BMW is damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they offer a car like the ///M3 without high tech gizmos, they will be criticized for being "behind the curve".

P.S. You can't switch differentials in any BMW ///M car. M Mode plays a huge role if you track your vehicle, so that MDM Mode allows for more freedom than the previous M button associated with the ZCP M3. You're over-emphasizing the use of the M button as if it changes how the car performs - It doesn't.



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They're also getting way too fat. FTL.
It's all relative. Even today's Porsche's are heavier than the older models. That doesn't mean that the vehicles are less efficient.


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unless you care about handling. the e90/92 is a pig, especially the m3.
Have you ever tracked an M3 before??? I'd wager that the answer is "no" based on your comment. Your average M3 owner drives at 2/10th's.

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BTW the Porsche was a 2004 Carrera 4S with only 7,200mi on the odo and it was obvious the previous owner took exceptional care of it.

I don't think the e46 M3 was by any means a contender with the Porsche 911 series, maybe the Boxter/Caymen crowd. I think that changed with the e92 M3 regardless of how technical you believe the car is. I don't want to spend a buck forty getting into a new 4S that's fully decked out but a 996 with only 7,200 mi is in more or less the same ball park as the E92. The e92 is a little more money but still in my opinion they're in the same category now from what I felt and what I saw. Of course I can't speak about racing performance because I didn't track the cars so yeah I probably can only speak about the 2/5's of the performance I know of. As a daily driver goes the e92 obviously holds an edge, besides you can actually fit someone besides a vertically challenged person in the back seat.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:25 PM   #13
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all cars are getting fat, that just the way it is. from the miata and accord to porches and bmw and bentleys
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