*rim removal problem*

apex76 · 11-10-2009, 03:56 PM

so i ran over a screw and and i need to take my tire off. i put it up on my floor jack and took all the lug nuts off. it has a mcgard lock nut which i also took off. with all the lug nuts off the tire still wont budge to come off..ive got breyton spirit rims...is there any other locking mechanism i should be aware of.i cant drive it so taking it to a shop wont do me any good..anyone got any suggestions???

BucJamez · 11-10-2009, 04:01 PM

mine gets stuck, so i just give it a few hard kicks, or figure out a way to pry it off. i dont think theres a lock or anything holding it. probably just stuck real good.

bigpaulie69 · 11-10-2009, 04:02 PM

might just be stuck to the hub...if you have a rubber mallet or sumthin just give it a few good hit on each side closest to the outer edge until it comes loose

DenaliXTC · 11-10-2009, 04:08 PM

kick it, if that doesnt work take a mallet to the inside(just incase you miss and dont smack the face of the rim)

alwaysbored786 · 11-10-2009, 04:16 PM

^+1, just keep kicking the damn thing. one time i had to use steel toe boots, and i just roundhouse kicked that sh!t, and it popped right off. I did it to my m68s which i didnt care about, so maybe try something more gentle with your rims

apex76 · 11-10-2009, 04:20 PM

yeah its stuck on pretty good,ill see what i can do

TxZHP04 · 11-10-2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apex76

is there any other locking mechanism i should be aware of

Yeah, it's called rust.

danwilz · 11-10-2009, 04:32 PM

Kick it at twelve O'clock really hard works all the time for me....

apex76 · 11-10-2009, 04:32 PM

haha yup i can see it fall as im kicking the tire...damnit this thing is a b!#%$ to take off

jmay87 · 11-10-2009, 04:34 PM

put the lug bolts back in loosely and SLOWLY and GENTLY lower the car back down to put some weight on the wheel and it should break it free from the hub

VMRWheels · 11-10-2009, 05:14 PM

Slight nudge works well for me and is safer then lowering the car back down on loose lug bolts.

-Charles@VMRWheels

apex76 · 11-10-2009, 05:23 PM

after kicking the damn wheel for a good 20 min the thing still doesnt want to come off. kicked it everyway imagineable still no luck.

Jblack4083 · 11-10-2009, 05:29 PM

It's stuck to the hub. Kick it. Face away from the wheel (your back to the car), brace yourself by putting your hands behind you and on the car, then give it a swift backwards kick.

alwaysbored786 · 11-10-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apex76

after kicking the damn wheel for a good 20 min the thing still doesnt want to come off. kicked it everyway imagineable still no luck.

time to try the technique jmay87s mentioned.

apex76 · 11-10-2009, 08:19 PM

would it not be wise to put the lug nuts back on lower the car and roll it forward and back..its as if the rim is welded to the damn hub

mestupmonkydude · 11-10-2009, 08:26 PM

get a peice of 2X4 and a 10 pound hammer. put the 2x4 on the face of the rim near the edge and hit it with the hammer. work your way across the wheel in a criss cross pattern like you if you were torqueing the lug bolts. this normaly requires two people, one to hold and one to hit. theres some company that sell a very thin shim to put in between the rim and hub. i normaly wire bush the rust off and keep it in out of the rain to minimize rusting.

apex76 · 11-11-2009, 05:59 PM

finally got the tire off now that i plugged the hole should i retorque the lug nuts.. what happens if i just tighten them and not torque them.?

DenaliXTC · 11-11-2009, 06:11 PM

Ive had to put a floor jack in between the frame of the car and the rim before, no fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by apex76

finally got the tire off now that i plugged the hole should i retorque the lug nuts.. what happens if i just tighten them and not torque them.?

YES! you should always torque to spec. It will save you a lot of headache down the road.

Also maybe put a little WD40 on the hub and give it a good scrubbing with a wire brush to get some of the corrosion off, do the same for the bore of the actual wheel.

JFern · 11-11-2009, 07:12 PM

When you do eventually get it off, wire brush the hub contact points and put a very thin layer of grease on the face of the hub where the wheel contacts to prevent this from happening again.

VMRWheels · 11-11-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apex76

finally got the tire off now that i plugged the hole should i retorque the lug nuts.. what happens if i just tighten them and not torque them.?

I would recommend cleaning the hub area so that is free from any corrosion or rust that might have caused the wheel to seize on the hub.

If you were to bolt the wheels on without torquing them, it is unknown how many ft/lbs it is being tightened down to. The recommended BMW spec is 88 ft/lbs. This is definitely a huge safety hazard so I would recommend trying to source an accurate torque wrench when installing.

-Charles@VMRWheels

11-10-2009, 03:56 PM	#1
apex76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 7 My Ride: 2001 325i wagon View My Garage	*rim removal problem* so i ran over a screw and and i need to take my tire off. i put it up on my floor jack and took all the lug nuts off. it has a mcgard lock nut which i also took off. with all the lug nuts off the tire still wont budge to come off..ive got breyton spirit rims...is there any other locking mechanism i should be aware of.i cant drive it so taking it to a shop wont do me any good..anyone got any suggestions???

11-10-2009, 04:02 PM	#3
bigpaulie69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new york Posts: 722 My Ride: 1997 BMW M3 View My Garage	might just be stuck to the hub...if you have a rubber mallet or sumthin just give it a few good hit on each side closest to the outer edge until it comes loose __________________ 1997 E36 M3 MODS: AA Diff. Support, UUC SSK, Euro headlights, UUC headers, UUC exhaust, ACS TYPE III replica Rims. Porsche "meteor Gray" paintjob, smoked lights, UUC RTAB, UUC RSM's Soon: Suede headliner, Alcantara euro steering wheel, ACS interior, Supercharger.

11-10-2009, 04:08 PM	#4
DenaliXTC Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NU JOISEY Posts: 1,665 My Ride: LSB/Cinnamon View My Garage	kick it, if that doesnt work take a mallet to the inside(just incase you miss and dont smack the face of the rim) __________________ Sig by NorthJersey3er 2001 LSB/Cinn M3 - euro.techniks east - - Mobile Addictions - - Euro-Spec.net - - Beemer Evolution -

11-10-2009, 04:32 PM	#8
danwilz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Staten Island, New York Posts: 38 My Ride: 330 ci View My Garage	Kick it at twelve O'clock really hard works all the time for me.... __________________

11-10-2009, 04:34 PM	#10
jmay87 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NC Posts: 381 My Ride: e36,e46,e90 View My Garage	put the lug bolts back in loosely and SLOWLY and GENTLY lower the car back down to put some weight on the wheel and it should break it free from the hub __________________ --1995 E36 M3--2001 E46 325i--2008 E90 335i--

11-10-2009, 04:01 PM	#2
BucJamez Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 81 My Ride: OB e46 Sedan View My Garage	mine gets stuck, so i just give it a few hard kicks, or figure out a way to pry it off. i dont think theres a lock or anything holding it. probably just stuck real good.

11-10-2009, 04:20 PM	#6
apex76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 7 My Ride: 2001 325i wagon View My Garage	yeah its stuck on pretty good,ill see what i can do

11-10-2009, 05:14 PM	#11
VMRWheels Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Santa Ana, CA 1-866-364-8073 Posts: 4,528 My Ride: 1:25 Scale Enzo View My Garage	Slight nudge works well for me and is safer then lowering the car back down on loose lug bolts. -Charles@VMRWheels __________________ Charles @ VMR Wheels Email - charles@velocitymotoring.com Tel - 714.442.7916 ext 107 [24 Hour Live Inventory] [NEW VMR V701 Straight Spoke][NEW VMR V718 Signature Mesh] [V713 19"] [VMR Wheels Gallery] [Connect with us on Facebook!]

11-10-2009, 05:23 PM	#12
apex76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 7 My Ride: 2001 325i wagon View My Garage	after kicking the damn wheel for a good 20 min the thing still doesnt want to come off. kicked it everyway imagineable still no luck.

11-10-2009, 05:29 PM	#13
Jblack4083 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Borough of Queens NYC Posts: 145 My Ride: 2001 325i TiAg View My Garage	It's stuck to the hub. Kick it. Face away from the wheel (your back to the car), brace yourself by putting your hands behind you and on the car, then give it a swift backwards kick. __________________ I hate wagons...

11-10-2009, 08:19 PM	#15
apex76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 7 My Ride: 2001 325i wagon View My Garage	would it not be wise to put the lug nuts back on lower the car and roll it forward and back..its as if the rim is welded to the damn hub

11-10-2009, 08:26 PM	#16
mestupmonkydude Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 163 My Ride: watched by oregonPD View My Garage	get a peice of 2X4 and a 10 pound hammer. put the 2x4 on the face of the rim near the edge and hit it with the hammer. work your way across the wheel in a criss cross pattern like you if you were torqueing the lug bolts. this normaly requires two people, one to hold and one to hit. theres some company that sell a very thin shim to put in between the rim and hub. i normaly wire bush the rust off and keep it in out of the rain to minimize rusting. __________________

11-11-2009, 05:59 PM	#17
apex76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 7 My Ride: 2001 325i wagon View My Garage	finally got the tire off now that i plugged the hole should i retorque the lug nuts.. what happens if i just tighten them and not torque them.?

11-11-2009, 07:12 PM	#19
JFern Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bridgewater or New Brunswick, NJ Posts: 50 My Ride: 01 325xi View My Garage	When you do eventually get it off, wire brush the hub contact points and put a very thin layer of grease on the face of the hub where the wheel contacts to prevent this from happening again.

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