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Old 03-22-2017, 06:51 AM   #21
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I'd try the M205 first to see if it does the trick. If the paint (clear coat really) isn't up to snuff then drop down to the M105.

My detailing philosophy is a combo of the Hippocratic oath and Homer Fornsby furniture refinishing protocol:
"First, do no harm" + "Use the least aggressive product needed to do the job."
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:39 AM   #22
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Might help if I show some pics of my car. It's a Dark Blue, the other ride is black (from what I've been reading these are a nightmare to upkeep and i already know that).

I'm not as concerned about the black vehicle as that one isn't winter driven, never saw winter and has only 15k miles.

I'm more interested in refreshing the paint on the BMW which is the dark blue one. see some pictures.

The car looks real nice once it's washed, but after you see the swirls etc. Also keep in mind this isn't clean, it's pretty dirty hope you guys get an idea on the state of it.




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Old 03-22-2017, 08:59 AM   #23
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Looking at those pics...you need a power buffer like Geo suggested.
I have the same portercable Geo has and have been very happy with it. The random orbit makes it almost fool proof.
If that is too expensive maybe you can order the one from Harbor Freight online and have it shipped to you?

BTW, heres another good detailing site I used to frequent a lot:
http://www.autopia.org/

There are also many good youtube videos showing how to use the various buffers.
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:39 AM   #24
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wash
dry
clay bar
menzerna heavy polish
buff
menzerna light polish
buff
p21s (wax)
buff
let sit overnight
meguiars nxt 2.0 (actually a a sealer more than a wax)


i do this on my car maybe once every 5 years , you can brush your teeth in the door when done

and still looks great after a touchless wash years after


it's a full day and morning after , but worth it
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Old 03-23-2017, 06:36 AM   #25
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Yikes! That's a lot of swirl scratches! That comes from an improper washing technique. Washing technique?? 2 bucket method prevents swirl scratches. Buy a plastic 5 gallon bucket at Home Depot or lowes or wherever. Fill to the top with water. Fill a smaller bucket with water and car washing liquid. Do not use dishwashing detergent. Why? Detergents are designed to remove grease from plates, etc. Is there a layer of grease on your car's paint? No.

Use a microfiber wash mitt. Don't use a sponge as it'll trap dirt particles that scratch the paint. Wash a small area (half the hood, as an example), and dunk the mitt in the larger bucket. Open the mitt do that the clean water flows through the mitt. This rinses the dirt particle out if the mitt. Rinse the washed section. Continue washing small sections of the car.
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:41 AM   #26
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Yikes! That's a lot of swirl scratches! That comes from an improper washing technique. Washing technique?? 2 bucket method prevents swirl scratches. Buy a plastic 5 gallon bucket at Home Depot or lowes or wherever. Fill to the top with water. Fill a smaller bucket with water and car washing liquid. Do not use dishwashing detergent. Why? Detergents are designed to remove grease from plates, etc. Is there a layer of grease on your car's paint? No.

Use a microfiber wash mitt. Don't use a sponge as it'll trap dirt particles that scratch the paint. Wash a small area (half the hood, as an example), and dunk the mitt in the larger bucket. Open the mitt do that the clean water flows through the mitt. This rinses the dirt particle out if the mitt. Rinse the washed section. Continue washing small sections of the car.
Yah lol..

So been doing some reading and research found this guy named Junkman2000 on youtube that has a pretty good novice series on how to detail/polish your car. Since I don't have a polisher yet and will have to see what to do for the time being I'm going to order

Chemical Guys - Chenille Microfiber Premium Scratch-Free Wash Mitt or Griot's Garage Micro Fiber Wash Mitts W/Cuff
Mothers 37240 California Gold Clay Bar System

With these two I can wash the car and get it to a state to then take on a polisher which by then I'll hopefully figure out or buy one. Lots of good comments on the Porter Cable unit however it $200+..
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:11 PM   #27
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Very interestingly enough.. I got myself a Porter Cable 7424XP. After I posted this I searched the local classifieds and stumbled on a unit for $90. The local store here wants $240 for it and I've found them as low as $180 online. These are canadian funds.

Needless to say I'm pretty pumped! I'll have to get some pads for it now
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:57 PM   #28
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Hi..

Evaluating the condition of your vehicle will steer you towards how it should be cleaned. A new car or one that already has a good coat of wax on it, may only need a wash and wax to maintain it, but a car with an average to neglected exterior may need to be clean and polished as well
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:50 PM   #29
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All i want is an advice from a to z using an orbital 10" machine on my 2004 escape, i've been washing it and wax it since 2007,paint is nice but i feel bumps on hood ,clay will help,the rest is just maintenance but i want to do it right ,i will appreciate any advices mainly on the buffer part. Ty
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:48 PM   #30
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Well I know this has dragged on for a bit but to provide an update. Due to weather and other circumstances this kinda got pushed to the back burner so I finally got a chance to do it.

Basically I started with a wash and drying.
Clay bar.
Meguiars ultimate compound
meguiars ultimate polish
Another quick wash (due to a few days going by between the polish & wax)
And then meguiars ultimate liquid wax.

After I posted this thread originally I stumbled on a used Porter Cable 7424 machine and ordered some "alright" pads on eBay after them being recommended (these also took almost 40+ days to arrive).
I didn't want to spend a ton of money on pads because I wasn't sure how well this was going to go so I couldn't justify the cost.

I could have gone with a firmer pad on the hood as that one had of course more scratches/little nicks. However since this was my first time doing it I was a bit worried to cause damage so I stuck with a orange and white pad mostly. Wax was done using black. I did switch over to the coarser pad at one point but was too far into the whole job to go all the way back and start over lol. Next time I do this I'll start with the coarser pad, I also found out after the fact that BMW has a harder paint compared to other car manufacturers which also means a coarser pad is the way to go to fix the scratches etc on this kind of paint.

So here is some pictures.. quite the improvement




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Old 07-11-2017, 01:08 PM   #31
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Really nice work!

BMW black paints are typically regarded as pretty soft, so it might be whatever combo you were using for pad/polish compound if it was taking some effort to cut.
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:46 PM   #32
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Really nice work!

BMW black paints are typically regarded as pretty soft, so it might be whatever combo you were using for pad/polish compound if it was taking some effort to cut.
Thanks! That's actually not black lol! Not sure if its just hard to tell but the actual color of the X3 is Monaco Blau Metallic
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