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Old 06-14-2017, 04:53 PM   #1
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Old Michelin tires?

My 2003 325xi wagon still retains 2 of it's original factory installed Michelin tires...still today 6-14-17 installed on the car....with DOT date 2002.

I bought this car last March when it was traded for a new BMW wagon.

Since new, 2003, only 2 tires have been replaced....I think odd..but?

There are two same Michelin tires also installed that have DOT date 2007.

The 2002 tires show many cracks...not so many in the two 2007 tires.

All tires have 1/4 inch of tread still. They will pass state inspection...I think!

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Old 06-14-2017, 04:55 PM   #2
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No matter what they pass, I would toss those tires in the trash for safety's sake.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:58 PM   #3
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I wouldnt even take the car out with tires that old, 400 dollars and you could be set for a long while and perform much better. even cheaper of you find a set of used wheels and tires on Craiglist with some alright tires mounted.
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:01 PM   #4
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Yes I agree!

My next question is what is a good tire today for this car?
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:07 PM   #5
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I recall the recommended life of tires is 8 years from the production date.

Rubber deteriorates and gets hard with age. Michelin tires often had very hard compounds and with age they often get harder so traction is another problem regardless of structural safety. If the tires are not already flat spotted, because tires that are almost twice the recommended lifespan probably were parked for a long period of time, they have crap for traction, response and handling and are just an accident waiting to happen.

Time for new tires regardless of inspection and tread depth.
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Get Pro Michelin or Dunlop. Very good brands. If big name car companies trust it, I trust it.

For sport, I would get Michelin Pilot. Can get the all season for inclement weather if you have it.
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:43 PM   #7
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Thanks again...I'm wanting to ride the summer out on these old tire...but in the fall and before winter, I want to replace all tires. ****, and now even Chinese, offer tires! There are many more choices out there today. I'd bet I'll go back with Michelin...maybe!
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:50 PM   #8
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The 2002 tires show many cracks...not so many in the two 2007 tires.
Nothing to discuss. You need new tires. LOTS of choices as to what to get. Figure out your priorities (treadwear, traction, intended use, etc.), go to tirerack.com to get your selection and shop away at all the online vendors to get the best price.

FWIW, I like my Conti Extreme Contact DSW's.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:29 PM   #9
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Need new tires. as said above, tirerack.com is your friend. I buy all my tires from them and I get them mounted at Wal-Mart. Been doing it for decades with both my cars.

Based on my experience, Michelins are the best tires for me. Usually the priciest too.


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Old 06-14-2017, 06:33 PM   #10
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Bridgestone Potenza series are pretty good for the money, the s04 especially
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http://www.sailuntires.ca/plt/passen...uck-tires.html

I'm currently running the Z4+AS all-seasons, and they're as good as my old Continental ExtremeContact DWS'

Cost me under $400 CAD for a set of 235/40/18.
So thats.. roughly $300 USD for a new set of tires.
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I have Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Zero regrets.

I think they have a new version.

There must be a condom joke for Griffin here with old rubber.
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Nothing to discuss. You need new tires. LOTS of choices as to what to get. Figure out your priorities (treadwear, traction, intended use, etc.), go to tirerack.com to get your selection and shop away at all the online vendors to get the best price.

FWIW, I like my Conti Extreme Contact DSW's.
in your area: Continental DWS 06. Wait for DiscountTireDirect to do one of their holiday sales. I think my set of 4 (245/40/17) came out to ~$350 plus $60 mounting at Costco
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I second the COnti DWS tires. Fantastic.

I worked in the RV industry for 20 years where we designed tire temp and pressure monitoring systems, so I regularly interacted with tire engineers. The life span for tires is 7 years from the DOT stamp. For cars this is rarely an issue because we normally wear them out faster, but for RV's we replace them due to age, not wear. And it is really hard throwing away $400 tires (each) that still have 70% tread left.

At 10+ years you are not only rolling the dice with your own safety, but the safety of anyone in your car or on the road around you. Not smart. Blow a front tire at highway speeds and careen into a car next to you carrying a family, and you will be regretting your choice to run them. Just saying.
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If your tires are that old, you should be seriously concerned about the rest of the car. It's difficult to imagine the previous owner maintaining anything else properly while leaving those tires on.
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Wow. How many miles are on the car? Not that it matters if the car has 10 miles, the tires are just too old. Michelin tires are excellent. I recently (last week) installed 4 pilot super sports on my 01 330i sport with staggered sport wheels. I got them from tire rack wholesale for $575 shipped. They are the best tires I have ever had and they have a 300 tread wear rating (good for performance category). I noticed something unusual while balancing the tires. Two of them were perfectly balanced with no weights and the other two took almost nothing to balance. I used no more than 1.5 oz of weights TOTAL to balance ALL FOUR tires. That is an amazingly low amount of weight to balance four tires and a clear indication of the quality construction of the tires. My wheels are also perfectly straight. The super sports are most likely not what you are looking for on a 325xit (they were oe on some ferrari models and other high end sports cars) I am just sharing my experience with the quality, not recommending you get the same tires. There are plenty of all season michelins that would be better on your car. They are not the cheapest but you get what you pay for.

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Old 06-15-2017, 09:35 AM   #17
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Thanks again...I'm wanting to ride the summer out on these old tire...but in the fall and before winter, I want to replace all tires. ****, and now even Chinese, offer tires! There are many more choices out there today. I'd bet I'll go back with Michelin...maybe!

Yeah you should go with Michelins or another trusted tire brand. DO NOT go with cheap Chinese rubber! Some people might try and say they're ok but I have experience that says otherwise. Last summer I bought a set of cheapo nankang tires. Brand new. In less than 1000 miles one of them had a huge bulge on the sidewall! If that had blown out on the highway it could have killed me or anyone else driving near me. That was the first and last time I bought cheapo tires. They can be down right dangerous.

I've been running Pirellis since this summer started and I've put about 2k miles on them so far. I've had no issues to date, they ride nice and I don't worry about getting a huge sidewall bulge or blowout.
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Yeah you should go with Michelins or another trusted tire brand. DO NOT go with cheap Chinese rubber! Some people might try and say they're ok but I have experience that says otherwise. Last summer I bought a set of cheapo nankang tires. Brand new. In less than 1000 miles one of them had a huge bulge on the sidewall! If that had blown out on the highway it could have killed me or anyone else driving near me. That was the first and last time I bought cheapo tires. They can be down right dangerous.

I've been running Pirellis since this summer started and I've put about 2k miles on them so far. I've had no issues to date, they ride nice and I don't worry about getting a huge sidewall bulge or blowout.
My buddy owns a tire shop, and this kind of stuff happens ALL. THE. TIME.
With every brand.. Michelin, Conti, BridgeStone, Good Year, you name it.

Nothing is perfect 100% of the time, and one isolated incident doesn't validate a generic blanket statement.

All those cheap Chinese tires still have to pass Industry & Government standards to be able to be legally sold here. The cheapness comes from lower manufacturing and R&D costs. Often, the thread patterns on a Chinese tire will be almost identical to an older, copied design of a first tier brand.

I'm happy with my Sailuns, and they grip way better than my old Contis in wet + similar in dry conditions.
Likewise, my Nexen winter tires have safely gotten me through numerous Canadian winters, still good to run on year 6.
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Yeah I understand that it could happen with any brand of tire but that was just the experience that I had. In the past I've had Michelins, Bridgestones, Mastercraft, dunlop and now the Pirellis and I've never had anything like that happen. Especially in less than 1k miles. Just saying. And I always drive pretty much the same roads. It's true my one bad experience isn't enough to write any tire brand off for everyone but it was enough for me.

And cheap manufacturing processes and r&d could very well result in say....a weaker sidewall in some cases. Obviously what happened to me won't happen to every set of nankang tires but I'm still guna stay away from them.
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Yeah you should go with Michelins or another trusted tire brand. DO NOT go with cheap Chinese rubber! Some people might try and say they're ok but I have experience that says otherwise. Last summer I bought a set of cheapo nankang tires. Brand new. In less than 1000 miles one of them had a huge bulge on the sidewall! If that had blown out on the highway it could have killed me or anyone else driving near me. That was the first and last time I bought cheapo tires. They can be down right dangerous.

I've been running Pirellis since this summer started and I've put about 2k miles on them so far. I've had no issues to date, they ride nice and I don't worry about getting a huge sidewall bulge or blowout.
Sidewall bulges are usually caused by hitting a pothole or something, not a defective tire. I have seen that a lot and more often than not the wheel is bent also from the impact.

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