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Old 12-20-2015, 08:33 PM   #1
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19 inch BBS LM rims on stock suspension?

Guys I'm gonna be that asshole that doesn't search before asking, but i wanted to know if it's a pain in the ass to install 19 inch rims on stock suspension on an e46 323i. I don't want horrid ride quality or anything. I'm getting an awesome deal, rims and tires for $650. Please help!!! Thanks
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Old 12-20-2015, 09:54 PM   #2
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Go for it. Offset and width will determine how well it works. It you don't have the sport suspension it may look funny though.
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Old 12-20-2015, 10:38 PM   #3
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Go for it. Offset and width will determine how well it works. It you don't have the sport suspension it may look funny though.
Front is 19 with 8.5 offset, rear is 19 with 9.5 offset. That's all I know about them. Is this information enough?
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Old 12-20-2015, 11:13 PM   #4
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Those should fit nicely.
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Old 12-20-2015, 11:47 PM   #5
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Those should fit nicely.
What if they're fake? How can I spot replica BBS compared to real ones?
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:43 AM   #6
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Front is 19 with 8.5 offset, rear is 19 with 9.5 offset. That's all I know about them. Is this information enough?
Not quite. What you've given us as offset is actually the width. The critical measurement is the offset. Look at the back of the wheel. You should see ET and a number. The number is the offset. Without that information, it's impossible to say whether these will be a good fit or not.
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:46 AM   #7
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Not quite. What you've given us as offset is actually the width. The critical measurement is the offset. Look at the back of the wheel. You should see ET and a number. The number is the offset. Without that information, it's impossible to say whether these will be a good fit or not.
This is the information I have. From the looks of it, up front is +35 (someone has horrid handwriting) and rear is +40?
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Yea it's hard to read that invoice. If it does say 35/40, the fronts will be a nice flush fitment and the rears might be a little aggressive. Depending on your tire size, you may have to roll the rear fenders.
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Yea it's hard to read that invoice. If it does say 35/40, the fronts will be a nice flush fitment and the rears might be a little aggressive. Depending on your tire size, you may have to roll the rear fenders.
How do tire sizes even work? I assumed the largest you could fit would be the size of the rim? I'll probably get the coilovers that he's selling with them That'll ensure a fit right?
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How do tire sizes even work? I assumed the largest you could fit would be the size of the rim? I'll probably get the coilovers that he's selling with them That'll ensure a fit right?
I wouldn't assume anything. Keep asking here. There are a lot of folks with experience with more aggressive fitments (I'm not one of them) and I'm sure they can help you out.

The coilovers will certainly help keep your car looking like a 4x4 if you have a non-sport suspension. What kind are they? Cheap coilovers pretty much don't come with good dampers.
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:09 PM   #11
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I wouldn't assume anything. Keep asking here. There are a lot of folks with experience with more aggressive fitments (I'm not one of them) and I'm sure they can help you out.

The coilovers will certainly help keep your car looking like a 4x4 if you have a non-sport suspension. What kind are they? Cheap coilovers pretty much don't come with good dampers.
I don't know actually. I found this guy on Craigslist, trying to sell his whole car with a blown head for $1200. I told him I could trade my rims and tires for his and I could pay him extra. The rims being BBS LMs, he said $700. $800 with the coilovers and he'll help put them on and adjust them. I don't understand coilovers either, but I know of some of the brands that are supposed to be good (Koni, H&R, Eibach). Are eBay coilovers not trustworthy? What if they end up being non-branded coilovers? Should I just not get the coilovers? I've seen some decent looking E46s with stock suspension and 19 inch rims. I'll add in example picture in a bit.
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:16 PM   #12
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These all say they have stock suspension, some have rolled their fenders. I don't have rolled fenders either..
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:18 PM   #13
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Here's the guys rims and set up btw.. I'll post better pictures once he sends them. These pictures look blurry. Do they look like authentic BBS LMs?
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What Geo31 told you is very accurate: Low end coilovers have great trouble controlling heavier wheels & tires like the ones your looking at, so even new ones will ride/handle very poorly with a lot of bounce.

You REALLY should re-think this purchase based on the fact that you don't know or understand what you're getting yourself into. Why not spend the next 2 months reading & searching on E46F, wheels & tires are a Dime A Dozen. There's a new W&T deal everyday in the for sale sub forum.

I can almost guarantee you that "If" you had more knowledge, you probably wouldn't be considering this purchase.....




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I don't know actually. I found this guy on Craigslist, trying to sell his whole car with a blown head for $1200. I told him I could trade my rims and tires for his and I could pay him extra. The rims being BBS LMs, he said $700. $800 with the coilovers and he'll help put them on and adjust them. I don't understand coilovers either, but I know of some of the brands that are supposed to be good (Koni, H&R, Eibach). Are eBay coilovers not trustworthy? What if they end up being non-branded coilovers? Should I just not get the coilovers? I've seen some decent looking E46s with stock suspension and 19 inch rims. I'll add in example picture in a bit.
For an extra $100 I'd get them UNLESS the guy needs your stock suspension to put on his car. Then no. If you can keep your stock suspension it would be worth the relatively low priced risk.
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What Geo31 told you is very accurate: Low end coilovers have great trouble controlling heavier wheels & tires like the ones your looking at, so even new ones will ride/handle very poorly with a lot of bounce.

You REALLY should re-think this purchase based on the fact that you don't know or understand what you're getting yourself into. Why not spend the next 2 months reading & searching on E46F, wheels & tires are a Dime A Dozen. There's a new W&T deal everyday in the for sale sub forum.

I can almost guarantee you that "If" you had more knowledge, you probably wouldn't be considering this purchase.....




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Quite true. If they are real BBS AND you like the gold centers, that is a good price. If they are reps (far more likely), they can be had for $500-600 every day. If his tires are not brand new, you're really not saving anything.

Only you can decide if you really want these and the deal is a good one to you. If I have any question about a deal, I usually take my time and if I lose the deal I lose the deal. If I'm very confident about a deal I pull the trigger without debate and get it done. If you're not sure, you may be better off to wait as Rob says. Certainly if you buy new reps you'll have a LOT more choices of size and fit, and that alone could be worth paying a little extra.
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Old 12-21-2015, 07:48 PM   #17
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Quite true. If they are real BBS AND you like the gold centers, that is a good price. If they are reps (far more likely), they can be had for $500-600 every day. If his tires are not brand new, you're really not saving anything.

Only you can decide if you really want these and the deal is a good one to you. If I have any question about a deal, I usually take my time and if I lose the deal I lose the deal. If I'm very confident about a deal I pull the trigger without debate and get it done. If you're not sure, you may be better off to wait as Rob says. Certainly if you buy new reps you'll have a LOT more choices of size and fit, and that alone could be worth paying a little extra.
What do you think a decent set of replicas would cost, with tires? I feel like the cost would be well over $1000. And that's without coilovers. If I can get coilovers AND tires and replica rims for $750 or so, don't you think it's worth it? Plus I've seen in a lot of places that 19s are fine, even without coilovers.. just not as comfortable. It just sounds like a super good deal to me. Plus he says the tires are at 80%. Just a decent set of tires could cost $500 without tax and installation.
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What Geo31 told you is very accurate: Low end coilovers have great trouble controlling heavier wheels & tires like the ones your looking at, so even new ones will ride/handle very poorly with a lot of bounce.

You REALLY should re-think this purchase based on the fact that you don't know or understand what you're getting yourself into. Why not spend the next 2 months reading & searching on E46F, wheels & tires are a Dime A Dozen. There's a new W&T deal everyday in the for sale sub forum.

I can almost guarantee you that "If" you had more knowledge, you probably wouldn't be considering this purchase.....




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Thank you so much for the input! I've been looking at rims and everything for a while now. Still don't understand how camber and everything works. I just want a good looking fit. And I feel like the 19s are perfect for that job. Also, this is the cheapest someone has offered BBS LMs in my area. I've asked for more clear pictures. If I see the engraving, I'll go ahead with the purchase. Otherwise, they're replicas and I probably won't waste my time.
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