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Old 08-28-2013, 02:21 PM   #21
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Shows how to get access to the oil pan.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...oil+pan+gasket
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:43 PM   #22
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Shows how to get access to the oil pan.

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Old 08-28-2013, 03:59 PM   #23
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In all seriousness, it looks like you've put a lot of effort into cleaning it up. At least you can get a better idea what it's going to take to get it running but you're trusting your life with one floor jack holding the car up. You need to support the car with a minimum of 2 ton jack stands and the floor jack as insurance. You wasted $50 worth of oil by not securing the oil pan or wherever it leaked from, so please do not crawl under the car until you can secure it.
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That dipstick is way off center from where it should be located.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:32 PM   #25
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E46 yes I noticed som brackets that are attached to it, they're not in correct place
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:42 PM   #26
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As for us telling you to use a jack stands we are saying it for a REASON. There have been a few members that DIED doing what you did...
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:30 PM   #27
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Lol wow really?
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:01 PM   #28
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To be completly honest here, the coil ground straps, the power steering lines held up by zip ties and the missing MAF are the least of your problems...
There are 25 M6 bolts holding that pan up. 21 short ones, 2 long ones and 2 mid size ones accessible through holes in the trany bellhousing. There are also 3 torx bolts mating the oïl pan to the lower half of the trany. Seems like most of not all of them are missing which suggests someone tried and possibly succeeded in partially droping the oïl pan. For what, god only knows...
Now with that pan down, the oïl pan gasket seal has been compromised. If there still is an oïl pan gasket in there, who knows... That's why some of your brand new oïl is now on the curb. It's probably not all on the ground, most of it is still in the sump of the pan but some leaked out for sure which indicates one hell of an oïl leak.
Even if you were competent enough to confirm the original pan gasket is still in place, and could find all the missing bolts, the chances of that pan sealing back up to the block are pretty slim.
Long story short, you need to drop the pan (which involves dropping the front subframe enough to make removing the pan possible), clean the mating surfaces, buy a new pan gasket, and re-assemble everything. It's not that big a deal, but then again that all depends on how competent you are. And, I'm not judging you here, but your comments on that video lead me to the conclusion you may be in over your head...
Want advice? Tow your car to a competent Indy and let him do it. You'll save on the long run and get your car back 10X quicker...
Good luck.
I back Simon P on his response. Once the pan has been loosened like that it will never reseal.
Why were the bolts pulled in the first place? People don't go to the trouble of pulling out oil pan bolts without thinking first that they have bottom end problems. No offence intended but you might have bought someone else's mechanical nightmare. I hope you didn't pay much for the car. These are not like an old Ford or Chevy where you can get away with mickey mousing them and they still run.

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Lol wow really?
I seriously think we're being trolled here guys. Read through all his topics. I believe the car wasn't "broken into and parts were stolen". Cars don't become salvaged titles with break-ins (or anything else) unless it amounts to a certain percentage the insurance company deems the car to be 'totaled'.

The amount (and type) of parts he's missing are akin to a car you'd find in a junkyard. This whole thing seems fishy. No offense, but my guess is he's fixing it up to throw on Craigslist. I came across dozens upon dozens of salvaged title cars that looked 'normal' on the Chicago craigs while searching for a car. Well over 1/2 of those I called said they bought it from an auction or junkyard and "fixed it up to normal working condition". Right. If I end up being wrong, then I'll cut up my center console, cook it and eat it. Until then, I'll remain extremely skeptical.

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Old 08-28-2013, 09:20 PM   #30
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I back Simon P on his response. Once the pan has been loosened like that it will never reseal.
Why were the bolts pulled in the first place? People don't go to the trouble of pulling out oil pan bolts without thinking first that they have bottom end problems. No offence intended but you might have bought someone else's mechanical nightmare. I hope you didn't pay much for the car. These are not like an old Ford or Chevy where you can get away with mickey mousing them and they still run.
I feel ya well I got it to start earlier it sounds like **** j onestly haha but sounds like an exhaust leak nothing major just cranck it bc I got the maf in the mail today still gotta fix the leak I'm probably dropping the pan next week and ill replace the gasket gish me luck! Sorrybif I ofended anyones feelings
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Well the starts right up now with the maf sensor in
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:36 PM   #32
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Still shitty should I post a video?
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:38 PM   #33
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The plate in the says the pick up date for the car was 3/28 so roughly the caRs been sitting 5 months
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:05 AM   #34
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What did I tell you in the first thread you posted about your car OP?
I told you someone did an insurance fraud on this car; someone knew there was a problem, so instead of fixing it they ransacked some parts and claim it on insurance.
Now, if you want to play it safe, you already know what you need. Proper jackstands and engine brace. Get the new bolts for the oil pan, go from there.
Of course its going to run like ****, even with MAF. With such big hole at the bottom end and almost no oil, you thought the car would run smooth?

I would fix the leak first before you even try to start it. Trying to run the engine without oil is asking for trouble(if the engine is still sound).
Whats up with the dipstick? why is it towards the fender? It should be towards the manifold. Is the dipstick tube properly inserted to the oil pan?

Get a scanner, get a friend and start working on fixing the big leaks. Once you have the leaks sorted, slowly fix the other parts. Without fixing that leak, you are going no where with this car.
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Not sure the dip stick is inside anyone has a write up on that?
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:48 AM   #36
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I'm order tha oil pan gaskrt from amazo tomorrow and call my buddy up
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Old 08-29-2013, 01:01 AM   #37
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You must have bought this for like $500 to be willing to put any amount of time, energy, and money in to making it run. With the oil pan bolts out like that, personally, I wouldn't risk what they were pulled for in the first place.

No thief ever is going to ransack a car and in the process go, "gee - I need about 20 or so oil pan bolts." cool!

I believe there were problems in the car and this is why those bolts were missing. I seriously doubt the previous owner had a clue of what he was doing too.

If I were going through this puzzle I'd run a compression/leak down test on this engine to determine if the reason the oil pan bolts were removed was because the rings (or a ring) were shot and the PO thought he might be able to get to the bottom end without removing the motor OR the nut came off the oil pump and did some damage in the bottom end.

All speculation but that's half the fun of this thread.

That and you don't appear too butt hurt over getting hammered for the jack stands...
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I seriously think we're being trolled here guys. Read through all his topics. I believe the car wasn't "broken into and parts were stolen". Cars don't become salvaged titles with break-ins (or anything else) unless it amounts to a certain percentage the insurance company deems the car to be 'totaled'.

The amount (and type) of parts he's missing are akin to a car you'd find in a junkyard. This whole thing seems fishy. No offense, but my guess is he's fixing it up to throw on Craigslist. I came across dozens upon dozens of salvaged title cars that looked 'normal' on the Chicago craigs while searching for a car. Well over 1/2 of those I called said they bought it from an auction or junkyard and "fixed it up to normal working condition". Right. If I end up being wrong, then I'll cut up my center console, cook it and eat it. Until then, I'll remain extremely skeptical.
Remain skeptical then youre a ****in dumbass nobody wants to throw it up on craigslist wtf I want this for my daily use so **** off straight up I don't care if I get banned this is ridiculous

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Old 08-29-2013, 01:50 AM   #39
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Remain skeptical then youre a ****in dumbass nobody wants to throw it up on craigslist wtf I want this for my daily use so **** off straight up I don't care if I get banned this is ridiculous
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Remain skeptical then youre a ****in dumbass nobody wants to throw it up on craigslist wtf I want this for my daily use so **** off straight up I don't care if I get banned this is ridiculous
I was being polite and said "no offense" but obviously you're a bit....sensitive.

Like I said: after reading through all of your posts in your multiple threads I think your stories don't match up at all. Also, a lot of questions people have asked, you ignore & some legit points people have brought up, you have these childish responses for.....which are signs of [fill in proper terms and finish my sentence].

I would love to know your vin # and to see an AutoCheck report for it. Post a report for forum lolz please. I am begging you.

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