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Old 04-04-2016, 07:28 PM   #1
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E46 M3 SMG to Manual Increase or Decrease resale value?

i recently picked up a E90 M3 DCT and after driving that car I have came to the conclusion that the SMG transmission is slow, and jerky and makes you sea sick after a while haha. I am really considering a SMG to Manual swap, and I was wondering if this would increase or decrease the value of my car. Please note my car is a 2006 Comp. package with 39k miles, thanks!
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:04 PM   #2
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For most buyers, decrease.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:33 PM   #3
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Wait, e90 m3, 2006 Comp pkg??

Does that even exist? I thought 06 was e46

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Old 04-07-2016, 08:50 AM   #4
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Just about the only way I could see a manual swap increasing the value of a car would be if that car was never offered for sale with a manual.
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Old 04-07-2016, 09:06 AM   #5
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Yup, if people want a manual they'll just buy a manual. There are plenty of them out there. Less people are going to want a car that's had major surgery. That brings into question how well the job was done. I highly doubt it'll increase the value. Most likely decrease it.
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yeah and besides that manual car is on the decline, its always the cheaper option of the two.
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yeah and besides that manual car is on the decline, its always the cheaper option of the two.

Wut???
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yeah and besides that manual car is on the decline, its always the cheaper option of the two.
This guy has never looked at used m3 prices lol
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Manuals are by far more desirable. There are much fewer of them available than the smg.
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I have a shot a the deal of a lifetime or close to. 2004 SMG Silver/red 60,590 miles on it for 16. For a used vehicle it is a 10/10 not a single spot on the whole car. Inspection 2 completed 2 owners driver bluster is spotless mirrors, vanos, subframe, steering wheel, you name it it's perfect. Just its an SMG. Debating it keep in mind I have a 2003.5 vert 6speed 66k on it and 2003 topaz coupe 86k on it. Debating on a 3rd... Any feed back guys?
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Wait, e90 m3, 2006 Comp pkg??

Does that even exist? I thought 06 was e46
Along with my 06 m3 zcp, i have recently picked up a 2011 e90 m3 zcp with the DCT trans. Hahaha, and to awn. your question no, e90 m3 in 2006 did not exist e90 production was only 08-11
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I have a shot a the deal of a lifetime or close to. 2004 SMG Silver/red 60,590 miles on it for 16. For a used vehicle it is a 10/10 not a single spot on the whole car. Inspection 2 completed 2 owners driver bluster is spotless mirrors, vanos, subframe, steering wheel, you name it it's perfect. Just its an SMG. Debating it keep in mind I have a 2003.5 vert 6speed 66k on it and 2003 topaz coupe 86k on it. Debating on a 3rd... Any feed back guys?
SMG is not that bad once you get used to it, I really was considering swapping trans. but I'll have to see if I will keep the car in the long run. If I will I will most likely swap the trans. But SMG is not bad, you will get used to its jerk, another option is to get a transmission tune, I know evolve makes one, and that improves downshifts (rev matching, etc.)
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Along with my 06 m3 zcp, i have recently picked up a 2011 e90 m3 zcp with the DCT trans. Hahaha, and to awn. your question no, e90 m3 in 2006 did not exist e90 production was only 08-11
Thats what i thought. I was questioning OP's comment
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Personally, I really really like the SMG. It is part of the M3's soul. The only negative is the potential replacement cost.
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Personally, I really really like the SMG. It is part of the M3's soul. The only negative is the potential replacement cost.
I agree completely about the replacement costs.
I would always drive my SMG in S5 mode, I started driving it in S3 and now it's not jerky at all anymore. I'm very happy with my SMG now, but it will never be as nice as the e9x DCT trans or a manual.
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Wait, e90 m3, 2006 Comp pkg??

Does that even exist? I thought 06 was e46
last 06 e46 was coupe
first 06 3 series sedan was e90

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yeah and besides that manual car is on the decline, its always the cheaper option of the two.
smg m3 always cheaper than 6speed
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SMG is not that bad once you get used to it, I really was considering swapping trans. but I'll have to see if I will keep the car in the long run. If I will I will most likely swap the trans. But SMG is not bad, you will get used to its jerk, another option is to get a transmission tune, I know evolve makes one, and that improves downshifts (rev matching, etc.)
service manager at bmw dealership i used to work at just got an 03 smg coupe and is getting ready for the smg pump failure.
when it fails hes going for the conversion since the transmission is the same. apparently its only $1500 in parts + however long the labour will take.
i was talking to someone with an track smg he told me his smg pump replacement costed him roughly $4000.
i wouldnt mind the conversion doesnt seem to be a bad idea if youre keeping the car for a long time and for sheer pleasure however like someone already said , people will question the work of a major surgery
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service manager at bmw dealership i used to work at just got an 03 smg coupe and is getting ready for the smg pump failure.
when it fails hes going for the conversion since the transmission is the same. apparently its only $1500 in parts + however long the labour will take.
i was talking to someone with an track smg he told me his smg pump replacement costed him roughly $4000.
i wouldnt mind the conversion doesnt seem to be a bad idea if youre keeping the car for a long time and for sheer pleasure however like someone already said , people will question the work of a major surgery
Yeah I agree if I'll have to replace it for 2,000$ I wouldn't think twice about the swap. I would get it done by Castro motors ports in so cal, they are known for their work with motor swaps and trans swaps.
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