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Old 06-15-2016, 02:19 AM   #1
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Two wheel fender liners in 3 days: how to secure?

Title says it all. I'm furious!! I bought a used wheel fender on here for my Ci (missing on ownership) and that one and my original both crumpled off in a period of three days! In the same freeway ramp exit. I'm more pissed about the price of the bolts I'll be paying. What am I doing wrong? They lived a year on the car without falling, and now they do! Should I be buying new? The used one I grabbed was in perfect condition (aside from dirt), but shipping those gets expensive. Any alternative ways of securing these?

I'm wondering if it's those little mud flap things. I don't rub on this exit, and ON STOCK SUSPENSION!!

I feel if this was a common issue, I would have heard of it by now. I'm so upset that after I try cutting mud flaps or other suggestions, I'm all but ready to pay the dealer so the service is warrantied!

Edit: For those who say leave without it, I went without the right one since I bought it. Rain got in there and drowned the horn. Between the horn and fender linger, I'm already out $50 on the stupidest issue. Luckily for me it's summer, but I want this fixed.

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Old 06-15-2016, 06:33 AM   #2
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Uh, not trying to be a smart-alek, but what's a wheel fender?
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:37 AM   #3
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Part #11?
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:22 AM   #4
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Title says it all. I'm furious!! I bought a used wheel fender on here for my Ci (missing on ownership) and that one and my original both crumpled off in a period of three days! In the same freeway ramp exit. I'm more pissed about the price of the bolts I'll be paying. What am I doing wrong? They lived a year on the car without falling, and now they do! Should I be buying new? The used one I grabbed was in perfect condition (aside from dirt), but shipping those gets expensive. Any alternative ways of securing these?

I'm wondering if it's those little mud flap things. I don't rub on this exit, and ON STOCK SUSPENSION!!

I feel if this was a common issue, I would have heard of it by now. I'm so upset that after I try cutting mud flaps or other suggestions, I'm all but ready to pay the dealer so the service is warrantied!

Edit: For those who say leave without it, I went without the right one since I bought it. Rain got in there and drowned the horn. Between the horn and fender linger, I'm already out $50 on the stupidest issue. Luckily for me it's summer, but I want this fixed.
Did you also install the brake duct?
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:25 AM   #5
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I call that a fender liner.
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:31 AM   #6
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Sounds like you need a different exit off the freeway or to go slower... I've broken both drivers and passenger side wheel well covers on stupid small bumps by going too fast (my fault)

Edit: going too fast while turning

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Old 06-15-2016, 09:27 AM   #7
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or wheels/tires are too big?
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:23 AM   #8
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Uh, not trying to be a smart-alek, but what's a wheel fender?
In my case, it's the plastic piece that wraps around the front of the front tires, and to the bumper, preventing debris from getting in your engine compartment. Can be seen pictured below
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Part 8. Sorry, the part names are close
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Did you also install the brake duct?
Did you see I bought that too?? No, because both of my original ones are still there. On the side that fell off last night (passenger), it was hard to install the "Part 8" and get the duct in the square.
Edit: This issue was ONLY for the passenger side
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Sounds like you need a different exit off the freeway or to go slower... I've broken both drivers and passenger side wheel well covers on stupid small bumps by going too fast (my fault)
I was going straight both times :0. It's a tad bumpy, but can't be felt really through the suspension. The freeway exit is the one to my main neighborhood street.
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or wheels/tires are too big?
stock 205/16

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Old 06-15-2016, 10:25 AM   #9
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I call that a fender liner.
Correct. My mistake, it was late

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Old 06-15-2016, 10:28 AM   #10
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Are your bump stops intact? Beyond that, you just need to slow down. It seems like your front bumper hit the ground and ripped the piece off. This is kind of like asking why your car scrapes over some speed bumps. Either go slower or avoid that path.
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Are your bump stops intact? Beyond that, you just need to slow down. It seems like your front bumper hit the ground and ripped the piece off. This is kind of like asking why your car scrapes over some speed bumps. Either go slower or avoid that path.
I don't know much about suspension since I haven't had to venture there yet in my ownership, but I'm pretty sure mine are original, or just straight shot (since ~August of last year, when I saw them). If these were damaged, could that explain my issue? Or even so, do you think I am just going too fast? FYI, I'm not going faster than I usually do over the past year. And since this is the main freeway exit for me, I use it a lot.
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You need to inspect to see if its still there or if it's in decent condition.

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Old 06-15-2016, 10:53 AM   #13
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or wheels/tires are too big?
Could be if they're aftermarket or non-oe size, true. In my case I'm on factory 18" with factory size 225/40/18s in front. My hit was from the shallow v shaped gutters on the side of the road so common here in FL...

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Old 06-15-2016, 10:57 AM   #14
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Do you know if the car is lowered? Can you measure it?
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Did you see I bought that too?? No, because both of my original ones are still there. On the side that fell off last night (passenger), it was hard to install the "Part 8" and get the duct in the square.
Edit: This issue was ONLY for the passenger side
I don't mean the brake duct itself, but the lower tang of the brake duct that interfaces (and holds) the lower fender liner in place.

That lower tang locks into the lower fender liner, not over or under it. The lower fender liner will flap in the wind like a scoop and the tire will do the rest.

Ignore the captions on the picture.

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I don't mean the brake duct itself, but the lower tang of the brake duct that interfaces (and holds) the lower fender liner in place.

That lower tang locks into the lower fender liner, not over or under it. The lower fender liner will flap in the wind like a scoop and the tire will do the rest.

Ignore the captions on the picture.
I see what you're talking about. On the passenger side, I was unable to secure it there because the bend in part 8 is different than the bend of part 11. It was hard enough to secure. On the driver side, I did have it secured there :/
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I see what you're talking about. On the passenger side, I was unable to secure it there because the bend in part 8 is different than the bend of part 11. It was hard enough to secure. On the driver side, I did have it secured there :/
That might be your answer right there.

Look at it closely. Something is amiss. That part is the same pre and post lift so there should be no difference in the way these parts interface with each other. See if a panel is over when it should be under an adjoining trim, for example.
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That might be your answer right there.

Look at it closely. Something is amiss. That part is the same pre and post lift so there should be no difference in the way these parts interface with each other. See if a panel is over when it should be under an adjoining trim, for example.
If that's the case, that really sucks. It's really hard to understand how they get secure. When you have a change, would you mind cranking your wheel and showing me how it is secured on your coupe? I don't know what goes under or over.
It is worth noting that the part where that bolt secures into the bumper has been shredded off, but neither has ever slipped out of that housing. I do think my bump stop and the little flare that looks like a mud flap are to blame. However, if I properly secure it and cut off that "mud flap," perhaps the issue will go away?

As I said, the passenger side doesn't bolt flush with the other wheel fender lining. I'll show you guys once I order some more. Do you guys recommend I buy used? I don't feel like these parts can go "bad."
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