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Old 05-03-2015, 06:12 AM   #41
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No, if the door lock link breaks you cannot open the window using the key in the door.

Also opening the window with the key in the door is diffent than opening the windows with the keyfob. Opening with the keyfob is a programmed feature, do not recall if this is default.

You REALLY need a new keyfob NOW. $135 for a new keyfob online. Search the forum for more info. I will try link the thread if I find it.
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Old 05-03-2015, 06:45 AM   #42
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These links should be useful.

DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER CUTTING OPEN YOUR ONLY KEY, YOU WILL BE SORRY IF YOU SCREW UP!

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1008294

http://www.bmwgm5.com/key_recode.htm

http://www.bmwgm5.com/kf_wos.htm
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:26 PM   #43
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Bust out the tail light

Seriously......if you have fold down seat or a ski pass you can gain access through the trunk of the car. Yo can also take out the metal plate and make a ski pass as the plate is not solid in there. It's made to punch out.

The passenger side inner trunk light can be carefully busted out as to not scratch the paint. I scratched my paint because I didn't care. It's hidden and I'll touch it up this fall or whenever I do more paintwork.

Once it's out you can reach into the inner trunk light housing and manually open the trunk. There is an emergency cable connected to the trunk lock that you push down.

If the e46 has fold down seats it's very easy to break into.
I got into my own car in this way as my keys somehow got locked in while in the ignition. The other bmw owner I was with could not believe I broke into my own car in that way, that quick, and that easily. I then upgraded to led tail lights. I learned this while stripping the whole car down to its shell

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See the thin wire in there. Push that little lever down. The lever is connected to the back of the door lock

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Old 05-12-2015, 11:31 AM   #44
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Same Issue as OP

However,
My FOB "sometimes" works on the door and always works for the trunk. I cannot figure this out but I can open the trunk with FOB but it will not unlock my door. Center Console button is no good as well. Tried the pulling of the door handles. Wondering if I remove battery cables will this somehow reset the locking system so I can pull the handles or maybe use the door FOB?

Thoughts?
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Old 05-12-2015, 12:03 PM   #45
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However,
My FOB "sometimes" works on the door and always works for the trunk. I cannot figure this out but I can open the trunk with FOB but it will not unlock my door. Center Console button is no good as well. Tried the pulling of the door handles. Wondering if I remove battery cables will this somehow reset the locking system so I can pull the handles or maybe use the door FOB?

Thoughts?
If the keyfob ALWAYS opens the trunk but only occasionally works to unlock the doors, this may be a GM5 relay problem? I recall if your interior lights come on when trying to unlock the doors with the keyfob, but the doors do not unlock, this is usually a sign the GM5 relays are flaky. If I am wrong, I assume Scott will correct this statement.

If the center console button is no good, the question is the center console button bad (guts blown out of the back of the switch) or again, it is a GM5 relay problem?

You can try the battery disconnect and see what happens, however, I doubt this will help.

Try to press and hold the unlock button on the keyfob to see if you can get the Convenience/Comfort Access feature to open the windows.

If not, sounds like the "Big Easy" with the key though the passenger side window may be your best bet, but you will have to turn on the ignition. If the GM5 relays are the problem, you still will not be able to get into the car via the door, you will have to roll the window(s) down.

Otherwise it might be door cylinder lock drilling time as this is easier to replace and maybe even cheaper than a window?
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:02 PM   #46
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If the keyfob ALWAYS opens the trunk but only occasionally works to unlock the doors, this may be a GM5 relay problem? I recall if your interior lights come on when trying to unlock the doors with the keyfob, but the doors do not unlock, this is usually a sign the GM5 relays are flaky. If I am wrong, I assume Scott will correct this statement.

If the center console button is no good, the question is the center console button bad (guts blown out of the back of the switch) or again, it is a GM5 relay problem?

You can try the battery disconnect and see what happens, however, I doubt this will help.

Try to press and hold the unlock button on the keyfob to see if you can get the Convenience/Comfort Access feature to open the windows.

If not, sounds like the "Big Easy" with the key though the passenger side window may be your best bet, but you will have to turn on the ignition. If the GM5 relays are the problem, you still will not be able to get into the car via the door, you will have to roll the window(s) down.

Otherwise it might be door cylinder lock drilling time as this is easier to replace and maybe even cheaper than a window?

Thanks for the response.. Good question about the lights they do not come on when FOB is pressed.. So the thought is maybe a short somewhere? They do come on when the door does unlock. I am not sure what caused the door to go in a hard-lock state. When I walked away from the car I did not lock the door but came back and they were locked.. FOB not working


I have purchased a new cylinder lock and will install it when I get the door open. Should have done it over the weekend.. didn't expect the door to lock itself

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Old 05-14-2015, 11:29 AM   #47
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jfoj -
Again thanks for your response after considering your statement and figuring it was a short I continued to press on the FOB key (8 mins to be exact) and finally it opened.. I was able to access vehicle and change out lock cylinder with new one and new door key. However I cannot resync my FOB as I thought this maybe the problem and noticed that if I park my car and get out, the doors automatically lock by themselves after a few moments. They are in a "Hardlock" state where pulling the door handle will not open them. Only putting the key in the ignition will resolve the state but as soon as I leave my car it is in Hardlock again. Any thoughts on how to trouble shoot this? This has only been happening over the last month or so
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:02 PM   #48
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jfoj -
Again thanks for your response after considering your statement and figuring it was a short I continued to press on the FOB key (8 mins to be exact) and finally it opened.. I was able to access vehicle and change out lock cylinder with new one and new door key. However I cannot resync my FOB as I thought this maybe the problem and noticed that if I park my car and get out, the doors automatically lock by themselves after a few moments. They are in a "Hardlock" state where pulling the door handle will not open them. Only putting the key in the ignition will resolve the state but as soon as I leave my car it is in Hardlock again. Any thoughts on how to trouble shoot this? This has only been happening over the last month or so
Sounds like you installed the lock cylinder incorrectly or the driver's door lock actuator is bad and needs to be replaced.
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:52 AM   #49
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happened to me, luckily sometimes the key works if i press a bunch of times so by habit i pressed a bunch of time the unlock button while trying to figure out what to do, i was locked out of my car at the store, then it unlocked, lucky me, close call. I ordered a new key online, waiting for it. See the other thread about getting a new key. Still on the fence whether I will actually repair the lock or just use the remote key from now on.
You REALLY need to repair the lock link as well, about $25 for parts on ebay or a new keyed lock cylinder is around $75 online from a dealer.

Also search www.bmwgm5.com, your problem may not be a problem key, but a problem with the GM5 relays or the keyfob amplifier in the car.

Fix your lock cylinder before you get locked out for a different reason, also replace the center console locking button if you have not done this yet, the guts blow out of the back of the switch and you will have problems if the center console locking button is bad/not working if you get locked out of the car.

Getting locked out can be everything from loosing a key, locking the key in the trunk or a problem with the battery or the car.
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:06 AM   #50
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My console button wasn't working.......When looking at the button I found the bottom had dropped outage said above. I pushed it all back up into the housing and glued it. Never had a problem since.

The switch is only held in there by gravity and friction so it's easy to check.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:33 PM   #51
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The first item appears to be a glove box repair cylinder, but anyway this is not way you want.

The 2nd & 3rd item is what you need, or at least part of it. Most people say to use the original spring from the car as the replacement spring does not have the tab bent in the correct direction??
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Old 09-17-2015, 06:56 PM   #52
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So there is damage the my key FOb and because of this I've been using my key to unlock my door manually for a couple months now. This morning I went out to my car to go to work and when I inserted my key and turned I felt no resistance. I can turn my key 90 degrees in either direction but nothing happens. I looked it up and this seems to be a common issue, something about a metal rod breaking in the lock's actuator. Here's where my problem starts. I called AAA thinking they could just come and unlock my door and I'd just have to drive around without the ability to unlock my door, no big deal. But when AAA came out thy were unable to get my door unlocked. They tried reaching in with a metal pole and just pulling the inside handle (which has worked previously when I locked my keys in the car) but when they did this nothing happened. So they tried again on the passenger side and still nothing! I'm able to open my trunk but My rear seats do not fold down from the trunk area so I don't know what to do. Help advice!?
There are only 3 ways to get into your car if you locked your keys inside. Unless you do something outrageous (destroy something), there is no way around it. Surprised AAA left you hanging. They're pretty good at unlocking cars. I guess it depends on the technician too. I'm a DIY person, so I would do it myself. Feel your pain tho, happened to me in early August, in the dying heat.. .
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Both my key fobs wouldn't work today I tried them a few times and nothing then all of a sudden they started working again. Any idea what's wrong. Anyone please ???

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Old 10-17-2015, 07:33 AM   #54
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Search www.bmwgm5.com for GM5 problems and also see if you can find a keyfob tester at your local auto parts store like this one - http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=963597
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Old 06-04-2016, 01:58 PM   #55
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I have an X5. The remote access fob doesn't work and my actuator just broke. AAA came out and unlocked the passenger side but before we could open the door, my husband took the key out of the door and it locked. Now we've been trying for days and nothing will work. The center console button will not work and even the door handles will not work. Anyone know why? AAA came out again and can't get it to open. I called BMW service advisor and they have no idea. I hear it's very difficult to break the window. Has anyone drilled the lock to gain entry? Thanks in advance for any ideas.
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Old 06-28-2016, 08:53 AM   #56
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Ttran1, does the unlock button of the FOB key work? If it doesn't work you still can unlock the car with the key that is inside the FOB key. If the lock is broken then you could get inside the car through the trunk (you can open it with the key). Once inside you could try to remove the door panel and reach the actuator double lock with a wire and open the door.
Also you could try replacing the battery inside the key.
I recommend buying the AK90+ key programmer, i bought one (im from Argentina) and succesfully programmed 2 non original keys. If your FOB doesn't work, you can enter the car through the trunk and get to the EWS module. Then plug it to the programmer and with a new key get it programmed in 30 minutes or less.
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Old 04-17-2017, 06:32 PM   #57
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This is a BMW "Type 3 Security" feature. Use slim-Jim type tool through window rubber moulding. Make sure tool has an end at the end. Press center console lock button. Pull up on door handle twice. Other than jacking vehicle up and then dropping it to try activate collision unlock under back seat (which is not only difficult, hard on the car and dangerous), there's no other way. Been there done that. Good luck!

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This is a BMW "Type 3 Security" feature. Use slim-Jim type tool through window rubber moulding. Make sure tool has an 45* angle at the end. Press center console lock button. Pull up on door handle twice. Other than jacking vehicle up and then dropping it to try activate collision unlock under back seat (which is not only difficult, hard on the car and dangerous), there's no other way. Been there done that. Good luck!

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This is a BMW "Type 3 Security" feature. Use slim-Jim type tool through window rubber moulding. Make sure tool has a 45-degree bend at the end. Press center console lock button. Pull up on door handle twice. Other than jacking vehicle up and then dropping it to try activate collision unlock under back seat (which is not only difficult, hard on the car, but dangerous), there's no other way. Been there done that. Good luck!

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This is a BMW "Type 3 Security" feature. Use slim-Jim type tool through window rubber moulding. Make sure tool has a 45-degree bend at the end. Press center console lock button. Pull up on door handle twice. Other than jacking vehicle up and then dropping it to try activate collision unlock under back seat (which is not only difficult, hard on the car, but dangerous), there's no other way. Been there done that. Good luck!
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