The AEM Infinity may not be available for the E46 M3 until well into 2014. We've been dealing with the excitement and let down for several years now and have even gone to a training session. However, after speaking with multiple tuners that have tried the AEM infinity, it is not something that we want to even try to use at this point due to issues they are having. I think some day this will be a capable and reliable system but the first box is being designed for the Supra which is about the easiest car to do and there are still issues with it. The Supra has an EMS for the engine and another box that controls the car internals. It does not have drive by wire, SMG, vanos, and an extremely temperamental DME that monitors every engine parameter. The E46 M3 is quite a complex car and it took JP (our AEM engineer) about a year to work out all the limp mode issues that arise when you take the DME's control away from the engine. We finally perfected this with the HPF/AEM and were able to control multiple boost control solenoids, 4 maps, methanol, traction control, knock sirens, dual vanos, etc. etc.
We get requests every day to pair our turbo kits with the AEM Infinity but I don't want anybody to get their hopes up thinking this will be happening anytime in the near future. Although 2014 is a year and two months away, this is what we're projecting based on the history of AEM releases and delays of this product. We will continue pushing the envelope on the HPF turbo kits and we hope to offer a stage 5 with close to 1200rwhp!!!
I was thinking nine months. I have to say PSI Mike predicted a VERY long period of development when I was speaking with him in person about the AEM Infiniity. He said AEM has a history of leaving the Beta testing up to the early consumers who most of the time have terrible problems.
However I thought they had the Supra pretty well ironed out. Are they not even close yet?
Can John, Chris and John help at least get AEM pointed in the right direction for our cars? Fourteen months is terrible. I don't doubt it.
Now I wonder how many glitches the early BMW units are going to have. A lot by the sound of it. One thing for certain, Chris would never release anything until it is fully tested and approved by his team. A fulling functioning AEM Infinity should be worth waiting for.
I don't think a 2013 release is out of the question.
Its just a matter of who wants to be the potential guinea pig. I for one am always down to trial new products.. most probably don't feel the same way, and I can't blame them.. its an expensive habit of mine.
Actually the John Reed has already started working on the Z4M harness and we are running the AEM Gen2 box (30-6050) on that car. We should have the HPF Turbo Z4M up and running very soon.
My car rips, and probably the only thing I'd do differently is spend some more time tuning it for drive-ability. My car was rushed out for the event.. we only had a week. I don't blame Jason/Saad.. but my car could use a bit more refinement with regards to transient throttle behavior. I just like trying new things, I'm also not saying I'm switching to AEM's Infinity ECU, or not.. but if its a year before its released I might be interested in trying something new then.. I get bored of things pretty quickly.
Same here. I wanted to pair this with the 6766 turbo... Now I'm going to have to get 2 separate tunes if I decide not to wait... 2014 seems so faaaaaar.
...We finally perfected this with the HPF/AEM and were able to control multiple boost control solenoids, 4 maps, methanol, traction control, knock sirens, dual vanos, etc. etc.
Is there any way in the meantime to somehow have a wheel based traction control such as ProEFI's on the existing AEM units? (even if it includes buying and installing some additional sensors...)
The only thing that I can think of is to get a Race Logic traction unit. They work great. The AEM does not have anything in the software for this so it would be a whole new firmware.
The ProEFI works perfect with the E46, I worked with a friend to develop a flash to make the stock ECU happy when running with a stand alone. While Motec CAN do flexfuel its no where near as straight forward as how ProEFI does it. The way fueling is calculated is WAY different. While Motec is a proven solution, it is definitely several steps behind strategy wise compared to ProEFI. ProEFI still provides the most stable fueling and ignition control over any system I've used, and over the widest range of conditions.
The MoTeC M1 series is out in limited release. I have an M150 in house to do some project development.
Due to how these ECU are being marketed currently, quoting pricing is a bit silly because what a full blown wide open M150 sells for is not the same as what say a BMW specific package M150 would sell for (if/when such a thing exists). I will say the current project I am working on with the M150, it looks like we may come in UNDER the price of our previous M800 solution, with a much more capable package.
This is probably the most powerful/capable ECU system on the open market right now, and as such the possibilities are almost limitless. It is also the OEM engine controller in the new Noble M600, to give an idea of what it is capable of. However the issue is taking a piece of hardware like this, and having the R&D resources to commit to making say a proper BMW kit (not just another piggyback type installation), and then having a market for it when you are done to justify the investment.
Something also to think about when talking price on a MoTeC. The M800 is still one of those ECUs that everyone uses as a benchmark (for good reason). Now keep in mind that it is 10+ years old at this point. The guys who bought M800 early in the day are sitting on a relative bargain compared to those who wanted to "save money" and have since tried a few of the "ECU of the year" that have rolled out in that time frame. It may not be the right ECU for everyone, and there are certainly other good choices out now, but looking at just the dollar amount is probably not the right way to shop for your engine management solution. I doubt many BMW cars would be sold if that was the only criteria that mattered when everyone went car shopping.
Using an m1 and getting rid of the factory dme would be a real big project but would be real nice
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