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ALL coilover kits say " Not for street use "

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#1 ·
SO whats next for Raceland haters? they dont like the colors?
 
#6 ·
Bro no hate at all.
I just don't want fanatics getting hurt that is all.
I would love to pick up a set but it's more of a piece of mind for me
 
#7 ·
I personally wouldn't put a $250 suspension on a car that I drive. You get what you pay for. As I've said in another thread, I really don't care what your decision is, just make sure I'm not next to you if your suspension fails and you go off the road. This kit makes perfect sense if your car is a show queen and I think that most of us agree that is the crowd that Raceland is built for. There are some BMW "purists" here that are all about the "go" and don't care about the "show". Some just care about the "show".

My concern is that someone is going show up to the track with these coilovers thinking that BMWs are pretty much track ready out of the box (they are using OEM parts) so its good to go. Then their suspension fails at 100+ MPH, goes off track and destroys their car. Worse yet, take out other cars and hurt someone else.

Who said ALL coilovers are not for street use? I don't remember seeing that on my Bilstein package?
 
#8 ·
Strictly speaking on the not for street use claim...I definitely didn't find that anywhere in the literature or box of my F2s.

Guys, this is ridiculous that this specific coilover is dominating the top half of this forum. You have obviously had success with them, and you should be very happy about that. You can't really ask for more from a product. Everybody else...just because you don't want it doesn't mean others don't. It is also safe to say that even if you are well intentioned, people don't like negative talk about a product they have invested in and had success with.

By the way, I spent significantly more on my coils than you guys did on the racelands...and I would do it again in a heartbeat. But, if your objectives are different, I am glad you found a product that satisfied them. Have fun with your coils.
 
#17 ·
For all we know, these Raceland coilovers could become the next eBay headers.
There have even been issues with the ebay headers i.e. bad welds.

I seriously considered the ebay headers but then I thought about either the hassle of either paying a shop to remove, weld, and reinstall or the aggravation of doing all of that yourself.

Luckily while internally debating this, I got a set of used Technik headers.
 
#12 ·
Nobody thinks a blown or poorly valved shock is going to cause a suspension failure. Manufacturing defects do. Stuff like this...



Its pretty simple. The safety of a shock depends on the quality of the materials and method used to build it. So you have to ask yourself, can a company really make four shocks and springs with high quality materials and build methods, advertise it, handle the back end parts of a business (processing), and still turn a profit when selling them for such a low price? And of course to answer that question you need some knowledge of how a shock works, what goes inside of it, and what factors depend on the materials with which it was made. How many of you know that stuff and even have the ability to answer the safety question? Probably not too many.
 
#15 ·
My KW don't say that...:eeps: Also, Please put a Big Sticker on ur Back Window "RaceLand Coilovers" :D So I can stay far away or pass u ASAP!

-TrippinBimmer
 
#19 ·
Theres no mounts on these coils that even look like that. If you read the thread that pic was from they say that they hit a curb sideways doing 15+. The silver M3 that flipped was doing 70+ and driving crazy. I'd say he was probably trying to cover his ass so he blamed on the newly installed coils.

How about this KW coilover:


Granted, I would not put these on a daily driver but I don't see them being any different than any other <$1000 coilover kit. Probably some wholesale strut/shock with some threads and perches added.
 
#20 · (Edited)
No hating on the raceland, but my PSS9 says "Race inspired" Adjustable from confort to competition. I got this set up because of the dampering. The only coils that says not for street is "Race Land". I don't think that bashing on others brand/systems is a great idea. I hope raceland work.

This is assuming on what they say right? I always put every component to the test and don't put too much attention on what they claim (any brand)
 
#21 · (Edited)
The phrase, "you get what you pay for", comes to mind.

As for the "hate" it only makes sense given some guys saved up for a long time to spend 2k on suspension parts, so it's only natural that they are going to hate on some product that MIGHT work just as well for a tenth the cost.

PS, I have my pss9 box in the garage. I'll check to see if it has that label. I don't remember seeing such.
 
#27 ·
Someone mentioned not to use chinese parts on German engineered cars, right?
Interesting, think about it, are all the parts on our cars made in Germany?
There's definitely nothing wrong about racelands, again you get what you pay for, and thats what MOST people want, >> just a drop(and if they can do it for 250 as compared to 1800 bucks, why not)
 
#28 ·
Someone mentioned not to use chinese parts on German engineered cars, right?
Interesting, think about it, are all the parts on our cars made in Germany?
There's definitely nothing wrong about racelands, again you get what you pay for, and thats what MOST people want, >> just a drop(and if they can do it for 250 as compared to 1800 bucks, why not)
Thats the only reason why I even bought them...I could care less about the ride stiffness or anything of that sort
 
#29 ·
I know GC stands behind their product for street use. So far, no one has had a really bad experience with Racelands. That doesn't mean they are safe, but that also doesn't mean they will eventually fail. It is what it is. The only thing about them that truly bothers me is their price. I also agree with Shady3one3 on what she said about the cost/profit ratio of that company. I don't see them being able to do the proper R&D and provide the necessary support to make them a good company and only charge $300 for their product.

That kind of price makes me go...


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#30 ·
well i can say ive ran raceland coils on multiple other cars and have had no adverse effects. In fact, I have tracked a couple sets of these on mk3 vw's with no major issues and they felt great granted they arent as adjustable as others (i <3 weitec coils on vw's). I recently bought a set for my e46 and again no adverse issues for 7k miles.
 
#32 · (Edited)
This is the biggest thread I have ever seen for "not for street use" LOL.

It's simply for liability issues. The KW and Bilstein does not need this tag because they are TUV certified, which is a German certification so that they can drive those cars on the street. They would obviously need to spend money on this considering they are a german manufacturer. Any aftermarket modification needs to be accepted through TUV, because being caught without it, apparently will be a huge no no.
It's not that hard to get it certified, it just costs a lot of money.

The main reason why they put on the tag that says not for street use is because it is the easiest way to sell around the world without any kind of certification. There are many times when a product is bought and end user would try to return it because it is illegal in their country. A good example would be exhaust, there are many catback exhausts but most of them will say not for street use, but its not because its not good enough for the street, but many times it is illegal, and they dont want to have to cater to all the different rules in different areas.

Now that being said, I would rather save my money and drive on blown shocks.
 
#35 ·
o common. How many people do you think are making money off the FK coilover or the oem setup?

The company manufacturing the springs
The company reselling the springs
The company manufacturing the shocks
The company reselling the shocks
The company manufacturing the body
The company that designed the setup (they are also probably the ones putting it all together)
The company exporting them, shipping them
The reseller


Now you grab a coil over design that is known to fit (FK for example), buy a plane ticket to China, spend two weeks there reverse engineering the thing at some factory, and make a 2000 unit batch. Sell direct on Ebay.

You just cut most of your cost and you got a cheap coil-over setup that will work just fine.

Its not like FK coilovers come with Koni shocks and Swift springs... They come with cheap shocks, cheap springs, and are made with cost in mind. Doesn't sound very different from the Chinese stuff to me.
 
#36 ·
I dont understand.
so are you arguing for or against chinese coils.
Or are you just giving us info. I will retract my comment if you are just giving us info. I was under the impression that you were trying to defend the the chinese products by saying chinese products are comparable with OEM BMW products, because of the material costs.
 
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