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Old 06-02-2013, 08:00 PM   #61
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Do you have another scanner to try to make sure your plug is working?
Not a BMW one, but the ports work with pen drives, I'll try more combos tomorrow but I think it is the scanner now.
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Old 08-14-2014, 09:59 PM   #62
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:11 PM   #63
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I have the same problem with my YAW (speed) Sensor... but there are never any error codes using my BMW specific code scanner. I can only assume that these particular codes are a part of the DSC / ABS system which would only show up when the dealer hooks their system up (or if you pay for one of those carsoft/pasoft kits).

You can sometimes find this sensor for < $400 on eBay.
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:16 PM   #64
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I have the same problem with my YAW (speed) Sensor... but there are never any error codes using my BMW specific code scanner. I can only assume that these particular codes are a part of the DSC / ABS system which would only show up when the dealer hooks their system up (or if you pay for one of those carsoft/pasoft kits).

You can sometimes find this sensor for < $400 on eBay.
A yaw sensor and a speed sensor are different things. It is not correct to say, "... my yaw (speed) sensor ..."

Your assumption is correct, the yaw sensor is used by the DSC, the speed sensors (one at each tire) are used by both the DSC and the ABS.

They don't usually report to the OBD II _directly_. They might (one of the speed sensors absolutely does) talk to the transmission computer to work out the shifting routines, but they don't have much to do with engine management and/or emissions controls, so the OBD II diagnostics might not have visibility to them.
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:36 AM   #65
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I have a 2005 325i and the DSC and brake light are on solid yellow.

Here are the codes. I have already done the steering wheel sensor adaptation and the codes remain the same.

ABS* -> 5D8F/A0 - Sensor cluster Error internal.
5E38/A0 - Yaw rate sensor electrical faulty.
5D97/A0 - Sensor cluster Supply voltage out of range.
5D99/A0 - Sensor cluster CAN Error
5D8C/E0 - Sensor cluster Timeout CAN

What is the next diagnostic step?

I have searched extensively on several forums and nothing quite matches my symptoms. Most say to adapt the steering wheel sensor or to turn wheel lock to lock.

I have cleared the codes multiple times and they come back instantly.
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:00 PM   #66
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This is fitting all of my symptoms this past few weeks as well. So, I've got a 2001 330i, 5-spd. Is the YAW sensor located in the same place perhaps? Under carpet in front of the drivers seat? I think I'll start the search for a used one...with my DSC button turned off, all seems well, but would like to stray from turning off a safety feature.
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:00 PM   #67
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Yea get a used one. New is 1200+ . I found a bmw recycler in atlanta and got mine for 90.00. Any 3 series will habe it if it fits your year range. Later models have the yaw sensor and lateral sensor all in one. Iny //m i have one from a 323 and it works perfectly. Plus with a used one, u do not have to program it.
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:35 PM   #68
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I have a 2005 325i and the DSC and brake light are on solid yellow.

Here are the codes. I have already done the steering wheel sensor adaptation and the codes remain the same.

ABS* -> 5D8F/A0 - Sensor cluster Error internal.
5E38/A0 - Yaw rate sensor electrical faulty.
5D97/A0 - Sensor cluster Supply voltage out of range.
5D99/A0 - Sensor cluster CAN Error
5D8C/E0 - Sensor cluster Timeout CAN

What is the next diagnostic step?

I have searched extensively on several forums and nothing quite matches my symptoms. Most say to adapt the steering wheel sensor or to turn wheel lock to lock.

I have cleared the codes multiple times and they come back instantly.
Anyhow, the issue with mine ended up being that the yaw sensor was immersed in water. Found leaked, fixed it, dried everything out, replaced sensor and all is well. BMW wanted close to $500 and found a new in box one from a forum member who sold it for less.
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Old 03-31-2015, 05:56 PM   #69
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Pretty sure I resolved my DSC problem...I couldn't believe it. Corrosion on the negative battery terminal :/ Wow...but saved $100-150 for a tech to diagnose it and perhaps another $1200-1500 saved for an improper diagnosis and/or garage highway robbery. Remember the fundamentals of automechanics kids...
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I'm jumping in late here but this happened to my vehicle as well - 2001 325Ci. Traction control triangle and yellow brake light illuminate while front driver side brake engages, jerking the car to the left. On the highway it will definitely get your attention. 66k miles, original owner. Getting the yaw sensor replaced and looking forward to the car no longer trying to kill me. (Would make for a better story if it was closer to 66.6k miles)
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Old 04-05-2017, 03:32 PM   #71
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I'm jumping in late here but this happened to my vehicle as well - 2001 325Ci. Traction control triangle and yellow brake light illuminate while front driver side brake engages, jerking the car to the left. On the highway it will definitely get your attention. 66k miles, original owner. Getting the yaw sensor replaced and looking forward to the car no longer trying to kill me. (Would make for a better story if it was closer to 66.6k miles)
It's pretty scary, especially when it's going in and out intermittently like mine. If you forget to turn it off (if DSC happens to somehow stay on) when you first start the car, then decides to turn off, usually my left front wheel will kind of lock up, and the car will pull to the left.

PA Soft says it's the yaw sensor. From the tons of reading I've done on this forum and many others, if you're only getting the exclamation yellow light in the center of the cluster (DSC light) it's time for a new new (or gently used, whatever that means) sensor. It seems like they have a limited lifespan.

I've been putting it off forever because I didn't want to fork out the money for a sensor, hopefully I can find a used one.

For anyone having this problem, don't put it off! It could cause you to crash, like it nearly did me when it recently rained.
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Old 04-05-2017, 03:51 PM   #72
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It's pretty scary, especially when it's going in and out intermittently like mine. If you forget to turn it off (if DSC happens to somehow stay on) when you first start the car, then decides to turn off, usually my left front wheel will kind of lock up, and the car will pull to the left.

PA Soft says it's the yaw sensor. From the tons of reading I've done on this forum and many others, if you're only getting the exclamation yellow light in the center of the cluster (DSC light) it's time for a new new (or gently used, whatever that means) sensor. It seems like they have a limited lifespan.

I've been putting it off forever because I didn't want to fork out the money for a sensor, hopefully I can find a used one.

For anyone having this problem, don't put it off! It could cause you to crash, like it nearly did me when it recently rained.
I think it cost me around $1,200 for a new sensor but was worth it to continue driving in peace. Do it before you regret having not done it sooner. Your safety and the safety of others is worth far more than a grand.
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Old 04-05-2017, 03:52 PM   #73
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For anyone having this problem, don't put it off! It could cause you to crash, like it nearly did me when it recently rained.
I have owned and driven cars all my life that did not have DSC or traction control in the rain and never crashed one of them. All it takes is good tires and common sense.
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Old 04-06-2017, 01:10 AM   #74
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If the stability control system's getting truly faulty inputs, it certainly has the ability to wreck you... of course, just unplugging the yaw sensor disables it...

So yes, you do sometimes have to out- think the car these days. Hard to out- think an airbag, sadly- they're so quick, and then you can't see, after being punched in the face.

But I digress...

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Old 04-09-2017, 09:24 AM   #75
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My yaw sensor under the drivers seat died on me. Car was acting crazy. DIS told me which sensor and where it was located. Jad to remove seat and peel up the carpet slightly to get to it. A new sensor is almost 1300 bucks! But i found a wrecker down in atlanta that had a used one for 90.
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:42 AM   #76
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