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Old 01-16-2017, 02:20 PM   #1
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Where to start with my 2002 330ci

My brother has finally handed down his prize possession (for a fee of course) and I was wondering what I should be doing first when I receive it.

Oil change and checking the fluids is a must. I would like to get 19" CSL replicas, and trade in the existing 17" racing rims. Maybe add a touchscreen GPS but want to get peoples thoughts and if you know of any brands, suggestions or places to get these things in Toronto please let me know.

Also if anyone can recommend where to get it safetied. Wondering if the 5% tint would get flagged.

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Old 01-16-2017, 02:44 PM   #2
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19" wheels are too big for the non-M E46, and even if 5% tint wouldn't get you "flagged", it's extremely dangerous.

As far as aesthetics the car looks pretty good the way it is. I suggest you look into the history of the cooling system.
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Old 01-16-2017, 02:50 PM   #3
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19" wheels are too big for the non-M E46, and even if 5% tint wouldn't get you "flagged", it's extremely dangerous.

As far as aesthetics the car looks pretty good the way it is. I suggest you look into the history of the cooling system.
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You'll finding handling and overall responsiveness taking a step backward if you "upgrade" from 17s to 19s. I think the wheels look great as is.

Too much black for my tastes---I'd de-murder the kidneys and tint---but otherwise focus on maintenance, as orb said.
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:22 PM   #4
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Your wheels look like D-Force LWT5 17"s, they're exceptionally light weight & cost roughly ~$255 each.

The moment you install 18's or 19's that weigh more (probably a lot more) your Bimmer will feel like a pig. Right now it drives like a racehorse*, don't turn it into a donkey....



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Old 01-16-2017, 03:51 PM   #5
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Thanks for all the comments, you all really want me to keep these tires/rims haha. My bro did have 19" on before and I believe he did work to the suspension but I see where you are coming from regarding performance.

@spannerhead, no idea what murder the kidneys means?
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:53 PM   #6
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Old 01-16-2017, 04:32 PM   #7
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Your wheels look like D-Force LWT5 17"s, they're exceptionally light weight & cost roughly ~$255 each.



The moment you install 18's or 19's that weigh more (probably a lot more) your Bimmer will feel like a pig. Right now it drives like a racehorse*, don't turn it into a donkey....







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* Assuming you have a good/great suspension.





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I run 19's in the summer causing the steering to feel heavy (over my 17's with winter tires). I like it better as the car feels way more planted, or that's the hard side wall from PSS. Still get lots of feedback and the ride is smooth.

I'd look into suspension components. The question is, do you wanna set fast lap times or look 'cool'?

Set of coilovers?
Rear window spoiler? (Kinda iffy on these. Some cars look amazing, some look trash)
Angel eyes? edit: nvm i see that you have them
Led corners?
Camber?
Front lip?
Aggressive tires/wheels? (I already like your wheels, nice and light too)






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Old 01-16-2017, 05:17 PM   #8
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OP if you are dead set on upgrading your wheels to 18's or 19's I would look into APEX ARC-8. They are reasonably priced light weight wheels. If you get some CSL reps you are prob looking at a 24-26 pounds wheel and with a tire you are looking at 50+ pounds per wheel. That would be a huge performance and comfort decrease. IMO stay away from 19's, 18's are a good in compromise, but the 17's you have are the best.

As Rob said those look like D-Force LWT5's. Depending on how wide they are the weights are the following

D-Force LWT5's
17x8.0 - 15.5 lbs
17x9.0 - 17 lbs

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17x8.5 - 17.2 lbs
17x9 - 17.8 lbs

18x8.5 - 18.45 lbs
18x9.0 - 18.65 lbs (What's on my car) with Michelin PSS's I'm at 43 pounds per corner.

19x8.5 - 20.45 lbs < to heavy IMO
19x9.0 - 20.7 lbs
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:38 PM   #9
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hehehe 64 pounds per corner with Michelin PSS.

theoretically speaking each pound of rotational mass is the equivalent of 5 pounds of sprung weight. I have 420 pounds on you . Once up to speed this will not influence the millage as much, but still a factor.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:18 PM   #10
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You lucky little sod. My big sister never hands me down anything .

First priority is look after it, would be a shame to see a post in 3 months documenting a preventable failure that kills the car.

After that you could spend your money on the most fun and best value performance upgrade you will ever do, you can even swap it into your next vehicle.

Track time and skid pan. With decent instructors. *checks over shoulder for wife*. It's the most fun I have ever had. EVER. On a bike admittedly. But the skills transferred to cars. My god you don't know how crap you are until you are very close to someone who's very good. Rapid training in the UK as a free plug for them if they are still going and someone from the UK reads this. Made my road riding safer, faster and way more fun. If you don't know what a vanishing point is and when to chase it then go find out .

That is a lovely car. I had Opel Mantas at your age. I am now sulking.

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Old 01-16-2017, 09:35 PM   #11
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hehehe 64 pounds per corner with Michelin PSS.



theoretically speaking each pound of rotational mass is the equivalent of 5 pounds of sprung weight. I have 420 pounds on you . Once up to speed this will not influence the millage as much, but still a factor.


Holy crap...what wheels do you have? I felt a huge difference getting rid of my style 135 which are 28 pounds and some change per corner.


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I like the brushed metal trim instead of the wood, it's the same I have on my car. The 17's look good to me.

First things I would look at:
-Fluids (Oil, PS fluid, Trans fluid)
-Brakes (if the rotors have a lip and the pad life, probably a good idea to do a brake fluid flush)
-Simple tune up (spark plugs if they are due, air filter, check belts and pulleys, and look for leaks)
-Cooling system (check when it was serviced last, should be overhauled every 75k miles)
-Get a quality OBDII scanner if you don't have one, it will save you a lot of headaches diagnosing future issues
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Holy crap...what wheels do you have? I felt a huge difference getting rid of my style 135 which are 28 pounds and some change per corner.


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as for the op, I'm running Bilstein sport struts + H&R sport springs. I find this is a good balance of comfort and handling as everything else is oem. ECS says Its about 1.7" drop for non-sport oem.

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Old 01-17-2017, 06:10 AM   #14
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I just got my 330Ci last week and I did a few thing here and there which you could read more about here: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...648&highlight=

The only thing missing there is that I need to replace the fuel pump asap as I'm having trouble turning the car on sometimes.

For the wheels, I'd go for 18" tops but never 19.
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[QUOTE=E46Envyy;17159982]vip status 'Furious' rims lol. wheels came with the car when I got it; unique look.

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So those seriously weight 39ish per wheel not including the tire? Are they made of lead lol?




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So those seriously weight 39ish per wheel not including the tire? Are they made of lead lol?
Not sure of the specific weight as I weighed the rim + tire on my bathroom scale. I came to the conclusion that the rim is 42 pounds and tire is 23.

these wheels are solid. lots of back roads and not a single bend, I wish I could say the same for the guy with three bent EC-7's.

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