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Old 05-28-2015, 04:18 PM   #21
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I cannot get Live Data on my 2006 330cic, nor on my 2003 E39 M5.

I also recall looking at a few other E46 that I could not get Live Data on either.

I might try to check on any other E46 that I look at in the future, I have just not even bothered to even try to look for Live Data with PA Soft since I have not good luck with it in the past.

Glad I was not dreaming about this one.

The live data function is pretty good. See the screens below of live data from my car - I can see that 2 of my emission modules are not reporting "READY" yet since I did a DTC clear yesterday and the car has not completed the readiness cycle.


I realize some of these screen are shown already in this thread but for some reason the posters are not opening up the software so that it can maximise data to present. Either that or there cars are always off when they do a screenshot.
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:49 PM   #22
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The live data function is pretty good. See the screens below of live data from my car
Your car being a what? '02 330i?

Would be helpful for anyone commenting on DME Live data working or not working would include the model and build month and year of the vehicle.


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I realize some of these screen are shown already in this thread but for some reason the posters are not opening up the software so that it can maximise data to present. Either that or there cars are always off when they do a screenshot.
Do not think it is a problem with people not opening up the software or the car not running.

I have never had problems with ABS, EWS or Steering Angle Live data, just the DME Live data software "button" has always been grayed out on the cars I have looked at. To the point I only use PA Soft if I choose to code something anymore. Too cumbersome and slow to drag the computer out and run the problem compared to many of my stand alone tools.

I think it is clearly a PA Soft bug, but how are you going to complain to PA Soft when all of the software has been pirated? I had issues trying to code a Steering Angle Sensor with PA Soft at one point and it was clearly a software problem where the box I needed to populate would not accept enough characters.

So not sure what the limitation is whether it is year, DME version or what the problem may be.
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:12 PM   #23
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I had no problem getting live data on my 03 325xi and my 04 330xi. I would be happy to send anyone a digital or physical copy of my software if they are interested.
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:21 PM   #24
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I am a bit confused as to the difference between the "free demo version" the full version for $800 and the $20-$40 version that is commonly found on various sites. I have the trial version and cannot code anything, it says "full version required", but I can clear codes and view tons of information. When I read the description for the $40 software and usb adapter plug, it says "unlocked" functions to show possibilities of full version, which is exactly what it says in the description of the trial version. I had read a post on here somewhere that if you buy the 40 dollar software, your getting the same thing as the demo version, with no capability to code. Can someone shed some light on this for me?

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Old 05-28-2015, 08:21 PM   #25
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The ebay versions are basically knockoffs. They give you full functionality, but some of us can't read live data. I think that may be related to the software that you get.

I'm not sure why PA Soft decided to charge such a huge amount. I have to think it's hurt their business, pushing everyone to ebay knockoffs.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:44 PM   #26
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I have no prob reading live data. Never had to solder any pins. I bought this as an u/g to my previous 1.3.6. Version which I paid a lot for in 2009. The package came with a full size cd. Manual and ftdi drivers with install instructions. I use it on a dedicated win xp netbook I picked up for $65.

I've also bought 2 eBay versions in the past 2 years that didn't work fully. One wouldn't read all the modules that the legit one would. Just didn't make sense?. Still baffles me - The other never connected and always reported a hardware not ready. I used them with the same software so I have to figure the difference was in the supplied interface.

Edit: in an earlier post I inserted some images of live DME and other module data - however the car was at 0 KM/h here's a shot of the same info from the same car at 125 KM/h - I love the second screen that says at 3K RPM and 125 KM/h is only putting a partial load on the engine. Anyone know what RPM/speed is required to have it display FULL load.
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:21 PM   #27
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I went to go use pa soft 1.4 for the first time today and only two modules are found. The rest of the modules are greyed out. What could be the problem? Thanks
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:25 PM   #28
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^Which modules did it find? Did you solder the pins?
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:52 PM   #29
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It only found dme and I think ews or something like that. I didn't solder any pins.

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Old 06-19-2015, 12:54 PM   #30
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I'm on windows vista pc. Not ideal. Maybe the drivers are messed up?
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:10 PM   #31
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I have not had a chance to double back on the PA Soft/BMW Scanner 1.4.0 DME Live data issue. On most of the cars I have tried to use this the Live Data button has been grayed out.

I have a 2006 330cic with the later DME, so it may be that the newer DME with the 5 wire MAF's and Wideband O2 sensors is a problem. The xi never went to these newer DME's, 5 wire MAF and Wideband O2 sensors.

I am not the only one that has has issues with Live DME data and I think it may be a PA Soft software bug/problem and not with specific versions of PA Soft software? It is not the interface because the interface can read the all the DME info except the Live Data, which the "radio button" is not active on the models I have attempted to use Live Data on. You also need to realize I rarely use PA Soft for drivability anyway, so I do not bother to even look/try Live DME data any more since I found that it did not work on a number of cars.

If I can sort this out, maybe someone with a supported copy of PA Soft can get this corrected??
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:08 PM   #32
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I went to go use pa soft 1.4 for the first time today and only two modules are found. The rest of the modules are greyed out. What could be the problem? Thanks
Soldered pins 7 and 8 and she's working great. Now I can get rid of that pesky airbag light.
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:09 PM   #33
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which option do I select?

Hi all newbie here need help. 2003 e46 CiC. Which option do I have to select on my PA Soft 1.4 to make my convertible top open and close using my FOB?
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:55 PM   #34
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^ See checkboxes under “Convenient opening/locking” below. Sunroof = convertible top.



If you’re feeling adventurous, I’d also highly recommend looking into this brilliant DIY: http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=483072. It’s the E46 Convertible Automatic Top Project by WT330CI. There’s a lot of information but well worth looking into. Easily the most convenient method of manipulating the top remotely.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:03 PM   #35
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^ See checkboxes under “Convenient opening/locking” below. Sunroof = convertible top.



If you’re feeling adventurous, I’d also highly recommend looking into this brilliant DIY: http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=483072. It’s the E46 Convertible Automatic Top Project by WT330CI. There’s a lot of information but well worth looking into. Easily the most convenient method of manipulating the top remotely.
Quick question: why are my mirrors and locking condition boxes grayed out when I run the program?
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Quick question: why are my mirrors and locking condition boxes grayed out when I run the program?
I'm assuming it looks something like this:



That screenshot was posted from user slocar a couple years ago, who also has an early E46 (2000 323Ci). My guess would be that your ZKE is an older software/hardware version that isn't compatible with those features. See page 29 of this thread for some commentary: http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...893444&page=29.
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I'm assuming it looks something like this:



That screenshot was posted from user slocar a couple years ago, who also has an early E46 (2000 323Ci). My guess would be that your ZKE is an older software/hardware version that isn't compatible with those features. See page 29 of this thread for some commentary: http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...893444&page=29.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:58 PM   #38
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My favorite is being able to start my manual car without depressing the clutch. So great when working and needing to start it without climbing in etc.
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Does anyone know how to determine the algorithm for a specific vehicle? My father has a 2007 X3 and the scanner isn't allowing me to edit the LCM since it can not determine the correct algorithm.
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Retrieving Error Logs and Backing up Data

There was a brief mention early in this thread about reading and writing the IKE eeprom in regard to making changes for one of the mods related to the temp buffer. However for Newbies to PA Soft the benefit of this ability to backup current vehicle configuration data using PA Soft was essentially overlooked.

I would recommend that any new user use the features of PA Soft that allow for backing up your vehicle information and settings before you attempt any coding or error clearing - especially if you are brand new to this.

Folk new to this tool may also end up clearing Diagnostic trouble Codes (DTC's) without addressing them or even noting them during their first use. Often these codes are very relevant to understanding prior history of a vehicle and issues it may have encountered if they have not been previously cleared and erased.

You'll be glad to know this historical info is still retrievable however by using Windows explorer to browse and review the actions you performed via the BMW Scanner session logs.

Your session log and any backup files you create will be stored under the folder you installed BMW Scanner 1.4.x to. Ie. C:\BMWScan140\MM-DD-YYDD-HH-MM-SS-%M



Retrieving Historical Data

Every time you connect the scanner to a vehicle the software creates a file folder under the BMWScan140 folder for that session that uses the date and time as the folder name. A session is defined as the period from which you initiate communication to the vehicle then quit the application. If you end the session then reconnect - even on the same vehicle - a new folder will be created with a different name (using the updated date & time info from the host)


Example here is the folder highlighted 8-21-2011_11-52-52-AM



Within this folder the software creates a text log file, again using the date and time as the name of the log file. In this example the log file was called 8-21-2011_11-52-52-AM.LOG



In addition to the vehicle identification data, scan results are written to this log file. The log file is appended during that session so errors cleared can be tracked. This sample log is attached below.



I have several e46's and other BMW's I use this program on. However the software does not create separate folders based upon VIN and only based upon the system date and time. Each session folder is unique to that vehicle however unless you pull the connector and plug it into another vehicle that has ignition on without backing out of application (Don't do this).



Backing up Data

For each different vehicle I use this software on the VERY FIRST TIME I backup everything before attempting any coding changes or even error clearing. You only need to this ONCE - You are just backing up all the original coding. You don't need to do this each time unless you make substantial coding changes and wish to back them up in addition to the original settings. In that case you might want to have different folders labelled where you place different backup files.

Backing up is done by reading and writing module epprom & initial factory settings to file. (Not all are available) This creates either a BIN file or an EPB file in the session folder. Within PA Soft for each module you will see options to READ MEMORY; READ DATA and/or READ EEPROM. You may choose to only backup modules where you plan to make coding changes. I usually spend about 10-15 mins backing up every module I can then putting that whole session folder away for future use as a backup.



The "read" action creates backup EPB & BIN files in the session folder. These files will be named according to the module/eeprom being read (I.e. ZKE_EEP.BIN; ZKE_HW20SW41.EPB etc.)



It takes BMW Scanner a wee while (few minutes) to read some of the main modules and store this data to file. I copied all my backup files to a separate media (USB stick) and put that away as a second backup in case the netbook HD dies.

Other modules require that you enter "Coding Data" to access the "Read Data" function shown in the image below. Once you click "Read Data" PA Soft will write the current settings to file in the session folder.



This way if I ever goof up writing to an eeprom (say for the Temp Buffer reduction) I have a back up. Or if I changed LCM setting PWM values to accommodate my LED lights and I restore the factory lights I can write the EPB file back and not have to try to remember what settings I changed.

The image below shows a session folder where many of the modules have been backed up (in contrast the folder for the 323 above only had two files from a basic scan)



I just thought that the very first thing someone with PA Soft who is new to it should do is backup everything before they start clearing errors and attempt to code anything.

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