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Old 02-11-2017, 05:10 PM   #1
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Top completely inop

Ok, this may have been covered in some other thread, and I will continue to look around online, but I had my 2000 323ci Convertible in for service at a very good indy European shop and he diagnosed the hydro pump was bad. Actually said the wiring harness was good. I ordered the pump from Top Hydraulics and it went in rather smoothly.

My issue now is that I was able to raise and lower the top manually prior. I had the top lowered after the install, replaced the 50 amp fuse, and tried to close the top. The tonneau cover opened, and the top gave a valiant effort to open, but couldn't. I manually raised it and the motor latched the top hooks down. Of course the red light is blinking now.

I emailed Klaus and sent him a picture of the low fluid level. He said that there may have been a prior leak or that the lines weren't seated correctly. My assumption is that the lines were completely empty, since the pump I removed was filled almost to the top.

My situation right now is that when I turn the car on, the red light flashes. There is no activity whatsoever when either top button is pushed. I went under the back seat cushion to unlock the mechanism so that I could manually open the top, but even with the button pushed down, I can not get the top to raise enough to allow the back section of the rood to be raised to expose the tonneau. I will likely stop by my mechanic so he can read any codes in the system. But I'd like to get it so I can raise and lower the top manually so I can see what happens to the fluid level.
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:30 PM   #2
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Top operation is completely locked out when the red light is flashing, so pushing the button hoping for something to happen is going to be a let down.

Get the codes read. Some sensor is reading a bad/disconnected value and preventing all operation.

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Old 02-11-2017, 05:37 PM   #3
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but I can't get the top to manually lower. Am I not turning the hex screws enough that unlock the latches? I mean the latches are unhooking and I can lift it a bit, but not enough to allow me to lift the rear section to open up the tonneau cover. I am hoping that if I can get the top lowered, I'll hit the open button and see if it resets.
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:24 AM   #4
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Dumb question: Did you manually unlock the latches at the windshield first?

There is no "reset" for the e46 top. The e36 top can be reset which many mistake while searching.

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Old 02-12-2017, 10:44 AM   #5
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Yes, I did. But I just read another post where someone mentioned that you must continue to turn the allen wrench to loosen the tension completely to allow the top to be pulled back enough to relieve the tension on the rear now so that it could be lifted. Does that sound accurate?
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Old 02-12-2017, 03:39 PM   #6
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UPDATE: I completely cranked back the latch that released the hooks from the windshield. That did allow me to pull the roof up to relieve the tension on the rear bow. When I installed the pump and manually put the top up after trying to do it with the buttons, the fluid dropped way below the circle.

I filled it (actually overfilled) but after manually raising and lowering it is now exactly where it needs to be. My guess is the lines were empty.

Now, the light is still flashing, but with the top down (stowed) if I press the open button I hear the motor and some clicking but not from the flap motor under the seat.

I checked all the fuses and the 20 amp in position 46 (where there are two fuses) was blown. Any idea what that fuses controls?

I am figuring from what you said, that with the light flashing I will not get the Windows to drop or the motor to run that released the roof from the windshield.

I also do not see any hydraulic fluid outside of the car on the garage floor, and nothing inside the car either.

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Old 02-12-2017, 03:43 PM   #7
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Also, with the key out of the ignition when replacing the 20 amp fuse in position 46, there was a spark, but it did not blow the fuse.

Also, the trunk will not open from the handle, only with the key in the lock cylinder.
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:12 PM   #8
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Another question, the tonneau cover doesn't latch, which may be why the trunk will not open with the button if the computer doesn't think the open/close process is complete.

I know the motor underneath the rear seat has something to do with it, but I think that is working properly, although I'm trying to find good pictures or videos of good versus bad flap motors. The tonneau lays flat so I wouldn't think the rear latches are closed.

Whatever actually raised the tonneau cover worked once since I installed the hydro pump, but I get nothing now and I hope that is related to your statement about nothing working with the red light flashing.
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