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Old 10-14-2013, 11:01 AM   #41
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so bimmerparts can do it for $126?

and they are making money

but the dealer charges $220? or more?

uhuh
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:25 AM   #42
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so bimmerparts can do it for $126?

and they are making money

but the dealer charges $220? or more?

uhuh
Yea, incredible markup I guess, one of mine was from ECS tuning:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/66126955748/ES183844/

I found the local deal for 133 and saved on shipping.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:40 PM   #43
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$173 including tax. Some dealers charge waaaaay more than others for the same exact parts. Another dealership wanted to charge $300
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:42 PM   #44
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dont understand who sets these prices with no mercy
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #45
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dont understand who sets these prices with no mercy
The market. They charge what they can.


Also, that 10 pre made keys per car rumor was by far one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. Do people realize how much time and money that would require? Given a million BMWs, 10 million extra keys that may or may not be used, ever, on cars that might even be junked at some point or another, are supposedly just produced and housed in a warehouse somewhere come on. lol
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #46
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dont understand who sets these prices with no mercy
It's absolutely rediculous what they get here locally, they wanted to charge me $200 for a transmission filter.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:57 PM   #47
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what did you pay for your E46 diamond key replacement?

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It's absolutely rediculous what they get here locally, they wanted to charge me $200 for a transmission filter.
Same here. Google BMW Concord and call their parts department to get a quote on a couple items. Even more incredible is how busy that dealership's service department is.

Oh well, it's a Free Market Economy! That also dictates that those who want to charge rock-bottom prices are able to, thankfully.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:24 PM   #48
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how was vin given?

1. Get in and CLOSE all the doors.

2. Put the key in the ignition and switch momentarily to position 1 (leave in this position not more than 5 seconds) then turn the key back to the off position.

3. Remove the key.

4. On the key transmitter, press and CONTINUE TO HOLD unlock button. Press and releas lock button three times within 10 seconds while still HOLDING the unlocked button.

5. Released the unlock button

6. Doors should lock, then unlock to acknowledge that key was recognized.

7. Program additional keys before leaving the car or turning the ignition on.




above pasted from a jfoj post,ty
I feel like they left out step 5.5, "Repeat for 10-15 minutes". The dealer sent a tech out with my new key to program it and it took him at least that long. (It was $180 at Chapel Hill Performance BMW).
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bmw generates profits mainly on parts markup. if there's no competition around, they charge. if there's a demand on a part, they up the price. if they know they're the only ones who can offer the part they charge a premium. if you just bought a bmw from them, void all this out.
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:53 PM   #51
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key fob

i have a question on key fob.--- please fanatics/experts do not rip me apart, --- but i was just wondering, --- i have two keys from my other bmw car that was totaled just lying around. can the key fob be programmed to another car or should i just dump them ?????
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:04 PM   #52
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i have a question on key fob.--- please fanatics/experts do not rip me apart, --- but i was just wondering, --- i have two keys from my other bmw car that was totaled just lying around. can the key fob be programmed to another car or should i just dump them ?????
I'm pretty sure you can just use the programming setup to use the key to lock and unlock the cars, as for reprogramming the immobilizer to start the car I'm not sure, might be possible.
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Best keyfob sync info - http://www.bmwgm5.com/Key_Recode.htm

You can in fact take almost any diamond keyfob from even other models and program it to lock and unlock your E46 as long as it operates on the same frequency. I believe all models use the same frequency in the region the cars are sold in?

I have a E39 and I experimented with programming my E46 key to open both the E39 and E46, but although you you can sync the keyfob, the rolling code gets out of sync and the key will not work after a few locking and unlocking attempts. I was just trying to be lazy so I would not have to look closely at my keys to determine if I had the proper keyfob. Luckily the E39 has a notch in the key blade so it is pretty easy to determine what key is for what car.

The only problem with programming a keyfob that does not start your car is keeping the battery charged up. Assume you might be able to purchase an antenna coil and make a AC circuit that you can charge the key with? But it is also possible if you do not use the extra keyfob the battery will hold a charge for quite some time. BMW suggests you rotate unused keys at least every 6 months, but they are known to hold a charge for much longer than 6 months.

So if you have a spare diamond fob, even from a different model, try and sync it to your car and hope the battery holds up for the time you need to use it to unlock your car.
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Thanks for the speedy responses. So, jfoj, i guess the lock/unlock will work even for a short time with the other Fob but it will not start the car. even if i use the Fob with the right key ???. The imobilizer will not sync/code with the Fob like the lock/unlock will ???
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Old 10-22-2013, 12:56 AM   #55
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You can unsolder the transponder off the old key, and buy a pcf7935 transponder and code it to your car, with a transponder coder which most don't have. I have one but not too many request for keys to be done. Your alternative is to unsolder the transponder from your working key and solder it on to another key, but then the key blade itself wouldn't match. Solution? Take the electronics from any key, unsolder transponder, solder on transponder from a working key, then put electronics into key with working key blade
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:08 AM   #56
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Seems to me if you can get a OE key for between $130-$150, it really is not worth the time and chance that you will screw something up.

The entire key hacking kind of cracks me up because people will spend all sorts of cash on wheels, lights, and other mods, but the key is really a one time, 10 year investment, but it has absolutely no bling factor so it never gets replaced until someone is locked out of the car or looses their only key. Then they usually pay double or more if they have to break into the car and be without the car for a while.

Each their own, but sometimes some things like having more than a single working key is important.

Also like not having at least a decent $30 OBDII reader that will display Emission Readiness Monitors, Freeze Frame and Real Time data.

Never have it when you need it, but cannot wait for it when you are in a bind. This is something EVERYONE needs. Its kind of like a snow blower, once you buy it, you rarely ever need it! Cheap insurance.

Replacing the key is just another PM item for these cars.
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what obd for $30 will give you that data?
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:36 AM   #58
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ELMScan with OBDWiz, Torque Pro, OBD Fusion. There is NO reason everyone should not have at least one of these programs. One of these covers computer, Droid Phone/Tablet and IOS/iPhone/iTouch/iPad for $30 or less!

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=967204

This is a good start and you likely also need to get BMW Scanner 1.4.0 for anther $30-$40.

So for under about $70-$80 you have almost all the bases covered.

Still prefer a decent standalone tool as my go to tool, because it is quicker for me. But most people should have a smart phone these days and except for Windows Phone or Blackberry, $30 is the max you will need to spend.
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I was just trying to be lazy so I would not have to look closely at my keys to determine if I had the proper keyfob.
Isn't it easy enough to use a different color key ring or case?

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But it is also possible if you do not use the extra keyfob the battery will hold a charge for quite some time. BMW suggests you rotate unused keys at least every 6 months, but they are known to hold a charge for much longer than 6 months
Well, the 10 yr-old diamond key that came with our wagon has maintained its charge AT LEAST a year on one occasion. But it is better that these batteries not become too deeply discharged.
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Isn't it easy enough to use a different color key ring or case?
Being lazy = Priceless!

Again, was more of a test to see what would happen and if it would work.

The E39 key has a big notch on the key blade so it is pretty easy to tell by looking at the blade.

See picture below of the notch that is in the Service/Wallet key for the E39, same notch in the diamond keyfob for the E39.
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