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Old 10-23-2013, 12:54 PM   #61
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The E39 key has a big notch on the key blade so it is pretty easy to tell by looking at the blade.

See picture below of the notch that is in the Service/Wallet key for the E39, same notch in the diamond keyfob for the E39.
Yup, pretty obvious to most of us.

But my better half wouldn't notice at least 3 times out of 4, even if the 2 were side-by-side on a table. We keep our keys in a decorative box, so it makes it a bit more challenging to determine which key goes to a car.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:10 PM   #62
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Yup, pretty obvious to most of us.

But my better half wouldn't notice at least 3 times out of 4, even if the 2 were side-by-side on a table. We keep our keys in a decorative box, so it makes it a bit more challenging to determine which key goes to a car.
Wife does not keep the M5 key on her ring, manual transmission and fancy shoes do not go well together!

I keep both keys on my ring as I do drive the E46 or have to move it or get things out out if it from time to time.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:01 PM   #63
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Anyone know of a place that ships to Canada for a decent price?
The dealership wants $360 from me
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:16 PM   #64
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I'm willing to loan my tool out to you. Just put a deposit on it. $20 for the rental. $40 can get you a blank fob with blank transponder and electronic remote. Get a locksmith to cut the key and you're done
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Old 11-22-2013, 11:00 PM   #65
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I'm willing to loan my tool out to you. Just put a deposit on it. $20 for the rental. $40 can get you a blank fob with blank transponder and electronic remote. Get a locksmith to cut the key and you're done
if I mail you a key can you program it and ill get a locks smith to cut it??
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:17 AM   #66
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just looking to find out what other members have paid for their replacement master key

just came back from bmw of great neck NY with a new key @ a total charge of 236$
BMW Of Westchester in Tarrytown was $150 plus taxes. I just bought a set last summer.

EDIT: Actually $166 plus taxes. See below for all the information you need for ordering keys.

I still don't understand why dealerships vary the prices so much on keys. BMW Of Manhattan and BMW Bayside Queens are the worse offenders charging $250 to $325 for the same key. BMW Of Rochester NY is the best, from what I heard-if I remember correctly charges like $120 a key. Too bad it is like a 7 hour drive from us here in NYC.

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Old 11-23-2013, 07:06 AM   #67
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what did you pay for your E46 diamond key replacement?

If you read the thread members show you where to go to buy a key for $150 online.

In order or me to make you a copy, which I would need just a blank transponder and your ews, you'd have to go without the ability of driving your car.

Lol. Most cannot bare that reality so your likely option is to order online
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:19 AM   #68
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Well I broke my transponder in 1 key called BMW 2 out of I think 4 in Houston they wanted 225 plus tax so I called the po to make sure one more time that he didn't have any extra keys and it come up that he had a spare on his wife key ring
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:28 AM   #69
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what did you pay for your E46 diamond key replacement?

Aren't you lucky
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Aren't you lucky
I guess so but I really need a key where the remote actually funtions but I guess in due time
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:00 PM   #71
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This thread is getting too polluted.

It appears there are 2 documented places where you should be able to mail order your keyfob for under $150.

Email Sean at http://www.thebmwpartstore.com/

Read this thread, the dealer in Maine appears to sell online as well.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1014183

I have no need for any keys, I have 6 keys between my 2 BMW's and all the keyfobs are working.

But someone do the homework, check with these 2 sources and report back and update the thread.
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:15 PM   #72
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what did you pay for your E46 diamond key replacement?

Oh? All you want is a key with a working remote? Why didn't you say so earlier? The cheapest route would be to order the remote shell and circuit board that has the buttons to allow keyless entry. That can be bought for under $30. Of course it will require that you hack that spare key to pieces to retrieve the transponder in it and transplant it into the new remote. Once you get a locksmith to cut the blank key, voila, initialize the remote and you're done
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:35 PM   #73
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$166 before taxes


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Old 11-23-2013, 04:49 PM   #74
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This thread is getting too polluted.

It appears there are 2 documented places where you should be able to mail order your keyfob for under $150.

Email Sean at http://www.thebmwpartstore.com/

Read this thread, the dealer in Maine appears to sell online as well.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1014183

I have no need for any keys, I have 6 keys between my 2 BMW's and all the keyfobs are working.

But someone do the homework, check with these 2 sources and report back and update the thread.
Bill Dodge Auto Group in Maine
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I think they are $140 plus shipping
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:06 PM   #75
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wow now im feeling pretty pissed i over paid for a stupid key... so let me get this straight how can you order a key online and have it start your car? because one person is saying it has been done one is saying its impossible
First just get the ebay key totally out of your mind, not sure why this keeps coming up, it is a PITA and a waste of time at the end of the day unless you have a EWS programmer.

Dealer purchased keys have the EWS PRE-PROGRAMMED, when you get the key from the dealer, it WILL start your car without ANY programming.

The ONLY thing that needs to be programmed on a DEALER key is the keyfob to unlock and lock the doors. Keyfob programming requires NO TOOLS OR SOFTWARE, you can do this yourself in 30 seconds sitting in the car.

Again, let me repeat, ALL keys ordered from the dealer, keyfob, valet and plastic service/wallet key have a pre-programmed EWS chip and will start your unmolested E46.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:10 PM   #76
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Bill Dodge Auto Group in Maine
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I think they are $140 plus shipping
ti, thanks for reposting this info.

Not sure how all this key stuff gets so misunderstood.

As I mentioned, if EVERYONE would forget the ebay keys, use Bill Dodge or The BMW Parts Store, they will be much better off and there is be no additional effort other than programming the keyfob when they receive the key.

If someone wants to buy the ebay key and ONLY program the keyfob and not even cut the key, this would be a good idea to have at least 2 working keyfobs that can remotely open the door. This is due to the door lock link being designed to be weak on purpose to help reduce theft.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:49 AM   #77
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what did you pay for your E46 diamond key replacement?

Right. Most do not possess an ews programmer, like myself. Finding a person locally to you is that much more difficult to do. I would only recommend going for eBay keys in special situations, like ones I approve of, or scenarios like how the last guy had a non remote key and wants a key fob.

You know, since the dealer is capable of writing a transponder for a car when it's not present, I would have to assume what they're doing is writing the vital info required by the car into transponder seeing as I doubt they have some warehouse with already programmed transponders stored away.

I have a blank transponder I'm going to test this theory on using my programmer. Seeing as the process for me to do it may not require me to actually connect to another persons ews. I noticed that the transponder mainly needs the cars vin, mileage, and for never before used keys, the security code which is a string of 13 or so numbers. Once that unchanging code is written to the key, the ews will then know which slot the key is designated for. Upon first start which never allows the car to actually crank, the random rolling code is then shared with the key by the ews, and from then on both the set code and the random rolling code is cross checked for accuracy
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:51 AM   #78
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what did you pay for your E46 diamond key replacement?

This set code can be viewed using pa soft. So using just pa soft, I'll obtain the set code to a new unused key slot, and then manually type the info into my ews key programmer and write it to my new transponder. If that works, then perhaps I have a solution for people in need of an alternative option for keys. Thanks for feeding me these ideas guys
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what did you pay for your E46 diamond key replacement?

Or wait a sec. Hm.... I don't think pa soft can see the set codes of other keys other than the key in the ignition. Can someone use pa soft and connect to ews and look at the key info option
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I am guessing that there is some DEFAULT ESW code that is configured base on the VIN and is for the 1st time key handshake?? After that you then start the rolling code????

Think about it, as long as the dealer is not selling/providing keys to people without proper documentation, then a default keyslot EWS code is all that is really needed. Or there is some code that ALL keys have that is like a MASTER EWS code? Then once the key uses the default EWS code and the car starts rolling codes, then the default EWS is no longer active?
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