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Old 05-10-2015, 01:16 AM   #41
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Noob question, but since the F/I gods are here, might as well ask.
Isn't our intake manifold made of plastic, like, is it possible for it to, under high load, basically shatter?
Official documents state it was developed for pressure peaks of 8 bar, which is roughly 8*14.5=> 116psi, due to possibility of backfiring into the intake.
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:27 PM   #42
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A little teaser

Just about ready to bolt up the turbo parts. There has been a lot of prep work to get to this point.

"S50" tuned on ms43
Pmas hpx maf installed/tuned
80lb injectors installed/tuned
New filter and adjustable fpr installed
Switched over to e85
Switched to obd1 metal valve cover and brand new obd1 coils
Charge pipe to throttle fabricated (due to m50 manifold)

Up next,
Wrap the manifold and downpipe
Weld bung for oil return
Gold tape valve cover cover
Install turbo and tune
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:30 PM   #43
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A little teaser

Just about ready to bolt up the turbo parts. There has been a lot of prep work to get to this point.

"S50" tuned on ms43
Pmas hpx maf installed/tuned
80lb injectors installed/tuned
New filter and adjustable fpr installed
Switched over to e85
Switched to obd1 metal valve cover and brand new obd1 coils
Charge pipe to throttle fabricated (due to m50 manifold)

Up next,
Wrap the manifold and downpipe
Weld bung for oil return
Gold tape valve cover cover
Install turbo and tune
I don't know if this applies to cars too but I know it applies to motorcycles.
Doesn't heat wrapping contain all the moisture inside the exhaust too? Hence rust problems and then exhaust leaks?
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:55 PM   #44
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there is a lot of moisture in exhaust to begin with, not sure how the lack of heat wrapping would allow moisture to escape. either way the manifold and downpipe is ceramic coated inside and out and its made out of stainless steel.
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Old 06-06-2015, 03:52 AM   #45
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http://www.aussiespeed.com/wp-conten...-Wrap-Rust.jpg

Let that speak for itself.
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Old 06-06-2015, 12:14 PM   #46
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LOL.

What's funny is any fool can post up pics they got off the web, hell, I'm quite sure I could come up with some Cars Crashing or Motors Blowing Up. Does that mean we shouldn't enjoy our cars,.....no. I've personally had my thin wall Ebay type headers wrapped for the last ~6 years, they're still going strong.

So to sum this up, when I burn up my current tires I'll buy new ones, when I blow my motor I'll rebuild it, & IF I have a header related problem I'll throw out my cheap headers & replace them with another wrapped cheap set.



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Old 06-06-2015, 01:12 PM   #47
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A little teaser

Just about ready to bolt up the turbo parts. There has been a lot of prep work to get to this point.

"S50" tuned on ms43
Pmas hpx maf installed/tuned
80lb injectors installed/tuned
New filter and adjustable fpr installed
Switched over to e85
Switched to obd1 metal valve cover and brand new obd1 coils
Charge pipe to throttle fabricated (due to m50 manifold)

Up next,
Wrap the manifold and downpipe
Weld bung for oil return
Gold tape valve cover cover
Install turbo and tune
So excited Finally its coming all together. Time for some impressive boost.

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Old 06-06-2015, 01:56 PM   #48
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LOL.

What's funny is any fool can post up pics they got off the web, hell, I'm quite sure I could come up with some Cars Crashing or Motors Blowing Up. Does that mean we shouldn't enjoy our cars,.....no. I've personally had my thin wall Ebay type headers wrapped for the last ~6 years, they're still going strong.

So to sum this up, when I burn up my current tires I'll buy new ones, when I blow my motor I'll rebuild it, & IF I have a header related problem I'll throw out my cheap headers & replace them with another wrapped cheap set.



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I'm not saying I know 100% that wrapping will cause problems with your manifold, it's just something that I've read and heard over and over and thought I'd give a lil heads up. I'm actually refraining from wrapping my turbo manifold because I just wanna be safe.
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Old 06-06-2015, 02:21 PM   #49
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excited to see this coming together!!
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Old 06-06-2015, 03:26 PM   #50
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A little teaser

Just about ready to bolt up the turbo parts. There has been a lot of prep work to get to this point.

"S50" tuned on ms43
Pmas hpx maf installed/tuned
80lb injectors installed/tuned
New filter and adjustable fpr installed
Switched over to e85
Switched to obd1 metal valve cover and brand new obd1 coils
Charge pipe to throttle fabricated (due to m50 manifold)

Up next,
Wrap the manifold and downpipe
Weld bung for oil return
Gold tape valve cover cover
Install turbo and tune
The manifold looks nice, for sure.

Does not sound like it will be long before you are enjoying your build.

When do you reckon you will get it to the dyno?

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Couple pics of the progress today, seems like it will only let me attach one photo per post. Sorry.
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a few things needed to be cut off for fitment of the hotside piping, once removed fitment was excellent. This car has no a/c though, not sure how well things are going to fit on the next install.
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Overall the fitment has been pretty good, with the exception of how close the turbo is to the headlight. There is very little room for the filter. the oil return hose is about 8" too short for where I want to install it. The fitting for it uses a nut on the back side of the pan to seal it. I'm not too fond of that idea, going to try and find an aluminum bung to weld on. As for the oil feed I think I will order one from rally road but haven't decided for sure. Still need to route cooling lines also.

Wrapping the manifold sucked, was only able to wrap the rear 4 pipes, the other 2 were just too close together, and I couldn't wrap them together cleanly so I left them open. They are on the underside of the manifold so hopefully it doesn't give me any issues.

I haven't installed the wastegate yet, wanted to make sure it worked properly before installing it.

Will update more as I make more progress.
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Old 06-06-2015, 07:39 PM   #59
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What is a good ems or piggy back setup? I have been looking into everything from aem, unchip,pro efi and so forth.
I have a motec m800 I thought about trying to wire up as a piggy back but think it's a little over kill
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What did you do about the flange for the secondary air pump? I'm assuming you either made your own block off plate or ordered one, but in that case, what did you do about the wiring for it? did you get a simulator, or make your own? Just curious.
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