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Old 07-30-2015, 10:14 AM   #61
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I agree with this kind of approach, although I would amend the last part a bit based on timing of equipment malfunction (e.g. driving on patrol vs. while discharging their firearm).



Far too many examples in this country of weak/poor character being issued the power of a badge and a gun.

The system and the people aren't perfect, and they never will be. The good/well trained examples far outweigh the bad.
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Old 07-30-2015, 10:16 AM   #62
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Give every cop a camera and mic and then there is 100% accountability for everything they do. if it is shut off at any point in your shift your fired. DONE.
the link i posted has video evidence of multiple incidences where the cops actions does not match what his statements say

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Old 07-30-2015, 10:34 AM   #63
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don't bleed on an officer's uniform after they beat you!

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The Ferguson cops charged Henry Davis with destruction of property because he bled on their uniforms when they beat him.

Then, as if fearing it might be outdone in ridiculousness, a federal district court ruled that Davis could not sue the cops for violating his Fourth Amendment rights because they had not injured him badly enough as he lay handcuffed on the jailhouse floor, a working man arrested on a traffic warrant in a case of mistaken identity.

"As unreasonable as it may sound, a reasonable officer could have believed that beating a subdued and compliant Mr. Davis while causing only a concussion, scalp lacerations and bruising with almost no permanent damage did not violate the Constitution," the district court ruled in tossing out the case.
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Old 07-30-2015, 01:21 PM   #64
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The system and the people aren't perfect, and they never will be. The good/well trained examples far outweigh the bad.
From my personal experiences, I believe the latter to be true and it is unfortunate that the jackasses make things difficult for respectable officers.

However, regarding the flawed system and the people in it:

I can consider that.
I can consider an ill-intended, race-baiting media.
I can consider the idiocy of a distracted population foaming at the mouth over biased reporting.

But in addition to the realities above is the realty where there are a noteworthy amount of people who deserve a cell and a roughed up path into it, yet instead are on the streets with a gun and a badge.

With the transparency of media and the ability of just about everyone to record police conduct, the margin of error is thinner than it ever was. That link posted above with the gifs, for instance, was disgusting and exemplifies how it is the scumbags who take the lion's share of attention when it comes to police.

End of the day, who loses the most? The victims and the good guys, who are also the only ones that can improve the situation.
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Can someone tell me why we never see female cops wrongfully shooting someone? Lately it's all just about the dudes.
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Old 07-30-2015, 09:07 PM   #66
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Can someone tell me why we never see female cops wrongfully shooting someone? Lately it's all just about the dudes.
The number of female officers is relatively small compared to men (..just like in the fire service). The numbers alone won't really support them having many issues. The last one that I recall that made serious headlines was the retired female LAPD detective that killed her husband. Let me see if I can locate an article on it.

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I keep hearing that story of the cop blowing a hole in the head of the guy with no front license plate and not showing a drivers license. It is absurd how the cop was so quick to pull out his gun and pull the trigger when the man was unarmed. Sure the guy was the in wrong for not cooperating with the PO, but that cop was too gun-happy and pulled the trigger within seconds of him attempting to drive off. Moreover I am hearing that he falsified the incident report and had other POs side with him to change the story around. Completely unacceptable.
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I keep hearing that story of the cop blowing a hole in the head of the guy with no front license plate and not showing a drivers license. It is absurd how the cop was so quick to pull out his gun and pull the trigger when the man was unarmed. Sure the guy was the in wrong for not cooperating with the PO, but that cop was too gun-happy and pulled the trigger within seconds of him attempting to drive off. Moreover I am hearing that he falsified the incident report and had other POs side with him to change the story around. Completely unacceptable.

No he didn't. My post #50 in this thread offered up a plausible alternative perspective. In addition, it doesn't matter than DuBous was unarmed. A vehicle is/can be considered a deadly weapon. If Tensing has good lawyers, he'll be fine.
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No he didn't "lie". This is a semantical debate here.
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Two University of Cincinnati officers have been taken off duty pending an internal investigation into a video that shows them corroborating their colleague's false account of the fatal shooting of unarmed black man Sam Dubose.
As shown in Tensing's bodycam video, shortly after the shooting two police officers can be seen recounting the incident, and backing up Tensing's false account of what happened at least three times. Kidd claims he actually saw the moment Tensing was dragged by Dubose's car.

"I think I'm OK," Tensing says. "He was just dragging me."

Kidd responds with, "Yeah, I saw that."

Later in the same video, Tensing repeats the claim, saying, "I got my hand and my arm caught inside [the car]."

Kidd again backs up the claim, saying, "Yeah, I saw that."
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Cop urinates on disabled man in wheelchair:

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Joe says that after being urinated on by the officer all he could do is fight to get the video released to show the world and hopefully get justice.

He recalled seeing a police-owned surveillance camera in the holding cell and found a friend to file a freedom of information request to obtain the footage.

The police responded by saying that the footage "didn't exist" and even signed a sworn affidavit to that effect.
http://filmingcops.com/video-release...in-wheelchair/

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Old 07-31-2015, 10:08 AM   #72
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Read what I said bagher. It is plainly obvious from the video that Tensing wasn't lying about what happened (....which is what I was referencing). Whether the other officers lied about witnessing it is a separate issue. I have never said anything about the other officers.
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In 2012, the latest year for which federal data is available, 73.2% of inmates who died in jail for any reason had not been convicted of a crime. That's 698 people. The largest chunk of those deaths-348 total-happened within the first seven days of being booked into the facility. (This was the case in the deaths of Bland, Henry, Chapman, and Jones.)
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Gay Man Pulled From Home, Beaten By NYPD Officers Yelling "f4gg0t" In Horrifying Video
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There is an interesting story out of Massachusetts where an official at the Massachusetts Civil Service Commission found that the Methuen Police Department admitted that job applicants were given higher scores if they indicated that they would never arrest a fellow officer for drunk driving and other applicants were downgraded for saying that they would apply the law equally to all citizens officers and non-officers alike.
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There is an interesting story out of Massachusetts where an official at the Massachusetts Civil Service Commission found that the Methuen Police Department admitted that job applicants were given higher scores if they indicated that they would never arrest a fellow officer for drunk driving and other applicants were downgraded for saying that they would apply the law equally to all citizens officers and non-officers alike.
Is anyone surprised when these types of people are involved?

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There is an interesting story out of Massachusetts where an official at the Massachusetts Civil Service Commission found that the Methuen Police Department admitted that job applicants were given higher scores if they indicated that they would never arrest a fellow officer for drunk driving and other applicants were downgraded for saying that they would apply the law equally to all citizens officers and non-officers alike.

Crazy! That wouldn't fly in Cali. The oral board(s) would have them for lunch and dinner.
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May not be a bad cop. May have just had a shitty day or didn't like being filmed handling a call out of jurisdiction. Idk. From what the video shows, it seems like the fella was asking a reasonable question but then is forced to play Simon Says with the officer.

Edit: apparently he's already been suspended for the situations and apologized: http://ksn.com/2015/07/31/ksn-lookin...olice-officer/



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https://news.vice.com/article/cop-fi...rce=vicenewsfb

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"These disciplinary practices... feed into the 'school-to-prison pipeline,' where children are funneled out of public schools and into the criminal justice system," the ACLU said in a statement. "Many of these children have disabilities, yet instead of receiving necessary educational and counseling services, they are often punished and pushed out."

The video is the latest case where police use excessive force on children in public schools has been documented. According to Mother Jones, which has been tracking incidents of police violence against K-12 students, at least 28 students have been seriously injured and one killed by police in the last five years.
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