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Old 03-07-2017, 09:48 PM   #21
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Like I said these mobile guys can really screw up the process for dealer purchased keys if you are not careful. They can do it right, but again you need to be careful.

The key is probably a cheap Asian $12 keyfob that they charge you $35 for. Most likely it does not have a rechargeable battery.

I find that you should not need more than 1-2 keys in the life of the car, these should not be regular purchases and it makes a lot of sense not to go outside of dealer purchased keys.

But some people do anything for the lowest price, but this often has compromises.

Cheap Asian keyfob?
Two extra issues with these keys in addition with the risk of messing up the EWS:
Likely not FCC approved?
Counterfeit use of the BMW logo?

I don't think the forum should be a place where illegal practice are advertised.

The counterfeit logo is only a problem for the lawyers of BMW NA but I guess it makes it illegal for you to sell the car with the key.

The FCC approval is a guarantee that the key won't interfere with other electronic systems using radio waves. The FM radio inside the car is not the target of these regulations, it's the aircraft navigation system. American and foreign companies pay a lot of money to make sure the radio system they sell are FCC approved.
The key emit at 315 MHz (which is a free band) but there is no guarantee that higher harmonics are not generated in the key and radiated in the free space. HUGE PROBLEM.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:57 PM   #22
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AK90+. $70 for the tool and $12 for the key and fob. Make your own keyes, that's what I did. Got about 5 lying around. Search on here , theres a good diy.

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Old 03-07-2017, 10:48 PM   #23
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The process through https://thebmwminipartstore.com/ is flawless. I did that 2 weeks ago. Ordered the key on monday, sent picture of the paperwork for proof of identification and I had the key in the mail on Friday. Excellent business.

No need to go to the dealership (not everyone live close to one).
No need to wait at the dealership.
No service manager trying to sell you overpriced and unnecessary maintenance.

I think even a real dealer will need to see you registration and ID before even ordering a key from BMW NA.
I've purchased a total of five keys from them this way over the years. Always works out great.
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:55 PM   #24
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Someone said this last year and I verified it from a number of NYC dealers and ot was not that cheap.[/QUOTE]

I'll be getting a new key for my car in the next couple of weeks in NY ill let you guys know what the going price for one up here is when i do. They are quoting me for one tomorrow.
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:54 AM   #25
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My bad. I paid $170
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Old 03-08-2017, 11:28 AM   #26
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Old 03-08-2017, 11:45 AM   #27
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AK90+. $70 for the tool and $12 for the key and fob. Make your own keyes, that's what I did. Got about 5 lying around. Search on here , theres a good diy.
Here is what I do not understand. Your $82 above does not even include cutting the key, so you are probably closer to $100 by the time you do all of this. Plus the 2-3+ hours of ordering and installing the software, figuring out how to use it, removing the EWS and running around to find someone to cut the key. And this is for 1 key, what a wasted time and effort.

You might be able to find a mobile guy to do this for $80-$120, but is it worth the hassle.

A few emails, send copies/proof of ownership and you will have an OE key in under a week if you go the OE way. Granted it is more expensive but what it your time and effort worth? For some of you guys this may be only a week of over prices Starbucks coffee.

For the member that "knows the parts guy" that gives him the key at cost. Well not everyone "knows" the parts guy. I am on a first name basis with my parts guys, they "know" me as I have been doing business with them for over 8 years, but they do not give me parts at cost. So this is not a real option for the majority of people.

People will spend the money for a key programmer, buy the keys, spend all the time and effort to learn how to program 1 or more keys, but they will not spend the money for OBDFusion and an interface and BMW Scanner 1.4.0 that can and will help keep the car running properly for years to come.

Spend your time keeping the car running properly, replacing the fuel pump and CCV system!

What I do not understand is how people loose so many keys, granted many of these cars are purchased used, but I have every original key for all of my vehicles going back over 21 years!!
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Old 03-08-2017, 01:01 PM   #28
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Don't know if it helps as I am in the UK but just bought a blank BMW key from CobraCarTech in the UK for 5 and had it cut for 7.50. A guy called Colin Abraham in the UK fitted all new electronics, battery and programmed it for the car for 25 by return of post. So a total cost of about $40 and it works perfectly all I had to do was pair it.
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Old 03-16-2017, 10:11 PM   #29
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If y'all live in SoCal area? Orange County to be exact. There is a guy I know in Irvine that will get it done for 100. I had my diamond key shape for my 330i 2001 to a box switch blade kind. Works like a charm.

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Old 03-16-2017, 11:01 PM   #30
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If y'all live in SoCal area? Orange County to be exact. There is a guy I know in Irvine that will get it done for 100. I had my diamond key shape for my 330i 2001 to a box switch blade kind. Works like a charm.

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$100 ain't too bad. But that's a cheap Chinese key and a non-rechargeable battery inside the fob. For $50 more you get the real OE key.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:48 AM   #31
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True dat!

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Old 03-17-2017, 05:29 AM   #32
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Unfortunately the E46's are getting into the hands of bottom feeders these days.

Maybe some of these bottom feeders do not understand the issues with a DIY keyfob or a mobile guy, but as mentioned, spend the extra $40-$50, save some time and headache and get an OE key.

Spend your "time" under the hood and on maintenance, trust me because you are going to need to!!!
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:09 AM   #33
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I did mine 3 months ago at the local dealer and paid 130 . I wouldn't do otherwise and the key was available for pick up two days later . Why spend more on some online method?


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Old 03-17-2017, 07:17 AM   #34
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For those itching on spending money on software, buy these for less than $60:

BMW Scanner 1.4.0 - https://www.amazon.com/iSaddle-Scann...+1.4.0+scanner

OBFusion App and VeePeak interface for under $30 total.

Android - https://www.amazon.com/Veepeak-Bluet...peak+bluetooth

iProducts - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WPW6BAE...s=veepeak+wifi

These 2 things above will allow you to properly maintain and trouble shoot problems with your car.
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:20 AM   #35
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For those itching on spending money on software, buy these for less than $60:



BMW Scanner 1.4.0 - https://www.amazon.com/iSaddle-Scann...+1.4.0+scanner



OBFusion App and VeePeak interface for under $30 total.



Android - https://www.amazon.com/Veepeak-Bluet...peak+bluetooth



iProducts - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WPW6BAE...s=veepeak+wifi



These 2 things above will allow you to properly maintain and trouble shoot problems with your car.


You could add the Bmw Maozua C110 scanner . It has the older and the latest bmws . Small and easy to carry around. It has helped me with my diagnostics on both my cars.


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Old 04-21-2017, 12:16 AM   #36
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Canadian alternative for ordering an OEM diamond remote key? Rmsonline seems to do it but they require a key AND EWS and they are the only one's I've heard of who do that.

Why doesn't bmwminipartstore need your key and EWS?
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:40 AM   #37
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Canadian alternative for ordering an OEM diamond remote key? Rmsonline seems to do it but they require a key AND EWS and they are the only one's I've heard of who do that.

Why doesn't bmwminipartstore need your car and EWS?
They take your registration and ID to a dealer, buy the key, ship it to you.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:48 AM   #38
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They take your registration and ID to a dealer, buy the key, ship it to you.
Would rmsonline have any other reason to request a key and your EWS?
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:15 AM   #39
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Would rmsonline have any other reason to request a key and your EWS?
No idea. Maybe they hack the EWS for the security codes and program a new key to match?
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:22 AM   #40
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Canadian alternative for ordering an OEM diamond remote key? Rmsonline seems to do it but they require a key AND EWS and they are the only one's I've heard of who do that.

Why doesn't bmwminipartstore need your key and EWS?
For Canadian owners, not sure bmwminipartstore can and will order for you because of a number of reasons. I think they need US registration and drivers license for proof of ownership as well as they are probably only supposed to order for "their" market.

RMSOnline is NOT a BMW dealer. They want your key and EWS because they likely purchase Asian keys, copy your original, then program it to your EWS. they are very much like the mobile locksmith guys that program the key to your car. Since they are not hands on to your car to pull the EWS, you much pull the EWS for them and ship it with a key they can copy and read with there EWS/Key reader.
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