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Old 04-09-2017, 10:25 PM   #1
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BMW forced induction, turbo/supercharger

Hi I am looking to get more info on getting a turbo or supercharger on my 01 330i. It is automatic and I was looking for either of the two, are there any kits y'all would recommend? I don't want anything too expensive
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:12 AM   #2
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How much can you spend? How old is your coolant setup? How old is the gearbox oil/filter?
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:13 AM   #3
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Unless your willing to start upgrading the internals, you're gonna want to go supercharger. The supercharger kits are generally cheaper also.

Don't do it
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:20 AM   #4
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How much can you spend? How old is your coolant setup? How old is the gearbox oil/filter?
Well I honestly don't have a price in mind but wanna go as cheap possible, I want the cheapest well known/ reliable kit
And I've only reolaced the expansion tank, both radiator hose, the thermostat, and the mechanical fan
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:21 AM   #5
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Unless your willing to start upgrading the internals, you're gonna want to go supercharger. The supercharger kits are generally cheaper also.

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Any supercharger kits you'd suggest?
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:40 AM   #6
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ess and vf offer the 2 cheapest kits at about $4200, a well built nitrous kit with all needed safety items will cost about $1200.
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:58 AM   #7
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Check out the forced induction section.

By the time it's all said and done you'll easily be 5-6k into it, especially if you tranny decides to break. Someone was trying to do a cheep turbo install and I think he's currently rebuilding his whole rear end due to subframe issues

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Old 04-10-2017, 02:33 AM   #8
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Well I honestly don't have a price in mind but wanna go as cheap possible, I want the cheapest well known/ reliable kit
Unless you mean you don't wanna get ripped off, I'd stop right there.

If you wanna keep going, check out:

https://europeanautosource.com/
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https://store.activeautowerke.com/

You're easily looking at $4000 - $6500, PLUS money in terms of upgrading stuff -- your transmission (probably the 360R) won't be able to take that kinda power (+60 ftlbs, +100 hp) for long, so you'll need to reinforce it (inside and out). You should probably also look at reinforcing your rear subframe, as well as the rear mounts, differential, and so on, and so on...
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Lots and lots of framework upgrades required on top of the internal components in the engine and transmission. I would say go for some more natural power in terms of small upgrades with performance parts. Get about 30-40 more hp.
If you really want >300-350 hp, a turbo kit. But that will require lots of maintenance and repairs over time. Initial cost should be a little less than a supercharger, with most supercharger kits costing ~ 6-7,000.

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Lots and lots of framework upgrades required on top of the internal components in the engine and transmission. I would say go for some more natural power in terms of small upgrades with performance parts. Get about 30-40 more hp.
If you really want >300-350 hp, a turbo kit. But that will require lots of maintenance and repairs over time. Initial cost should be a little less than a supercharger, with most supercharger kits costing ~ 6-7,000.

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What small upgrades are you talking about? I've got a cold air intake and an exhaust as of right now
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Well I honestly don't have a price in mind but wanna go as cheap possible
when you're buying a house, would you also tell your realtor you don't have a budget in mind and then get mad when they bring you to a 5 million dollar mansion that you can't afford? cheap is different to every person so tell us what that number is and we'll give you options within that number.

you need to establish a budget. and a real budget, not just "I'll buy the parts as I go along and hopefully it comes out cheap".

a reliable, off the shelf, ready to run, kit will run anywhere between $4000 to $7000 depending on if it's a turbo or supercharger, different stages of power, accessories, etc...

if you have the mechanic ability (know how to weld, how to pull your motor, etc) then you can possibly put a turbo kit together yourself with a cheap CX Racing kit. something to think about by the way...if you do it yourself, it won't be an overnight project where you'll be driving the next day. do you have a second car or a rental car that you can drive for potentially months while your car gets put together and then all sorted out so it can drive reliably?

long story short, you're like the 4th person just this week to make a thread saying "I wanna make my car go fast but I don't have any money. what do you guys think I should do?" threads like this come and go almost daily and probably 90% of them go nowhere because the person didn't think it would be so expensive. when you factor in parts, labor and down time, and then fixing any issues once it actually does work, most just choose to drive their car the way it is.

if you seriously want to do this, you'll need knowledge and a wallet that can take a couple thousand dollar hit at minimum.

.......how's your subframe holding up?
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I didn't see you had an automatic. that severely limits you. unless you plan to swap to manual then you don't have many options. the automatics have proven themselves to be unreliable when the engine gets boosted. to compensate for this, any supercharger or turbo kit out there will have a good amount less power than the same kit on a manual car.
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when you're buying a house, would you also tell your realtor you don't have a budget in mind and then get mad when they bring you to a 5 million dollar mansion that you can't afford? cheap is different to every person so tell us what that number is and we'll give you options within that number.

you need to establish a budget. and a real budget, not just "I'll buy the parts as I go along and hopefully it comes out cheap".

a reliable, off the shelf, ready to run, kit will run anywhere between $4000 to $7000 depending on if it's a turbo or supercharger, different stages of power, accessories, etc...

if you have the mechanic ability (know how to weld, how to pull your motor, etc) then you can possibly put a turbo kit together yourself with a cheap CX Racing kit. something to think about by the way...if you do it yourself, it won't be an overnight project where you'll be driving the next day. do you have a second car or a rental car that you can drive for potentially months while your car gets put together and then all sorted out so it can drive reliably?

long story short, you're like the 4th person just this week to make a thread saying "I wanna make my car go fast but I don't have any money. what do you guys think I should do?" threads like this come and go almost daily and probably 90% of them go nowhere because the person didn't think it would be so expensive. when you factor in parts, labor and down time, and then fixing any issues once it actually does work, most just choose to drive their car the way it is.

if you seriously want to do this, you'll need knowledge and a wallet that can take a couple thousand dollar hit at minimum.

.......how's your subframe holding up?
I have the money but I don't want to go with a cheap unreliable kit nobody has heard of, I want to get a well known reliable kit but don't want to go with the most expensive option either
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I have the money but I don't want to go with a cheap unreliable kit nobody has heard of, I want to get a well known reliable kit but don't want to go with the most expensive option either
And I haven't check out my subframe really, how exactly do you make sure it's nice and strong still ?
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I have the money but I don't want to go with a cheap unreliable kit nobody has heard of, I want to get a well known reliable kit but don't want to go with the most expensive option either
the best and only bolt on turbo kit for an automatic. I've heard rumors though that getting in touch with him is kind of hard...

http://techniquetuning.com/e46330turbo.html

active autowerke is a long time reputable name for superchargers. if you really want to maximize your power with a supercharger, it would be best to get some open headers as well.

https://store.activeautowerke.com/collections/e46-2000-05-3-series/products/active-autowerke-e46-330-supercharger-kit-level-1

ess makes nice stuff too

http://esstuning.com/m54b30-twin-screw-stage-1-ts1/
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This thread is becoming more fun to read every day!

Its clear the op has not done anywhere near enough research, but I've gotta give credit to demonic for spending the time to write up some useful info.

to be completely honest I don't think the "budget" turbo/charger build has got anywhere near enough research over the years. The threads regarding the subject always get shut down (with valid reason). But as part prices drop and more knowledge gets around it becomes feasible . I just can't justify lining aa's pockets; their profit margin must be massive.

If only we fanatics got together and crowed funded a supercharger project and do a bulk run...

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Its clear the op has not done anywhere near enough research, but I've gotta give credit to demonic for spending the time to write up some useful info.

to be completely honest I don't think the "budget" turbo/charger build has got anywhere near enough research over the years. The threads regarding the subject always get shut down (with valid reason). But as part prices drop and more knowledge gets around it becomes feasible . I just can't justify lining aa's pockets; their profit margin must be massive.

If only we fanatics got together and crowed funded a supercharger project and do a bulk run...
it's all of these reasons i went with nitrous and never looked back since.
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Also may want to set aside 1000 bucks for a quaife or a helical. So add that to the price.


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