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Old 04-16-2017, 04:01 PM   #1
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No heel toe?

Exactly as the title states I can not heel-toe in my car. If I try to drag the brake st all while still on the gas it cuts throttle completely.

I did do some reading about it...found some cases were solved by simply plugging it back in from it being forgotten about. But the other case never said if it turned out to be a bad maf or not.

Anyone had experience with this? Or solved this issue with a maf or another part? Thought it could have been a bad vacume leak so I've at this point replaced the upper and lower Intake boots, cleaned the icv, made sure the disa was all intact and functioning and resealed. New valve cover gasket spark plugs and oil cap. All that made no change as far as heeltoe but it sounds happier. Ccv appears to be junk so waiting for my Ecs can to get here to fix that. Nobody in my area seems to have a 6 pin maf so figured I'd ask a might be silly question before I order a new or used one. ***127850;
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Old 04-16-2017, 11:30 PM   #2
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I know for sure that if the MAF isn't plugged in you can't heel 'n toe. I also know that the car doesn't like to do burnouts for long as it just cuts throttle if the brake and gas are pressed for too long.

Not sure what the issue is but good luck. I'd consider borrowing a known good MAF just to rule it out as a possibility.
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Old 04-17-2017, 05:50 AM   #3
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I wish I could help you but I have no issues when I heel and toe in my car. Good luck figuring it out.

Might be stupid but is the clutch in all the way?

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Old 04-17-2017, 10:35 AM   #4
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Yea it won't let me brake and gas at the same time under any condition. I've got a maf on the way so will report back in a couple days if that takes care of it
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Old 04-17-2017, 12:31 PM   #5
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I just can't heel toe because i suck at it
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Old 04-17-2017, 01:00 PM   #6
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^Start going through the motions painfully slowly, then work up to it. It becomes 2nd nature.
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:05 PM   #7
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First time I tried in e46 nothing happened lol I was like wait what? Tried to just rev the car with my foot on the brake and it wouldn't do that either.
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:17 PM   #8
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I just can't heel toe because i suck at it
So do I - far better at it in my '89 Civic HB where I could just roll the foot over to the accelerator. With the 330i - I can do it somewhat at slow speeds not hitting the brake hard. On the track - my foot is too far down on the brake to roll the foot over to the accelerator. When I try and blip the throttle - I push on the brake harder... horrible.
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Yeah, I've only tried a few times and i did the classic accidental brake slam lol
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:51 AM   #10
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I know for sure that if the MAF isn't plugged in you can't heel 'n toe. I also know that the car doesn't like to do burnouts for long as it just cuts throttle if the brake and gas are pressed for too long.

Not sure what the issue is but good luck. I'd consider borrowing a known good MAF just to rule it out as a possibility.
burnouts by holding the brake and smashing the throttle?
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Yeah, I've only tried a few times and i did the classic accidental brake slam lol
I noticed that my 330 with the 6 speed swap (2003+, clutch with more splines) has a lot more responsive gas pedal than my friends '03 325i which has less splines. I assume the flywheel is lighter on my car so it makes rev matching a lot easier.
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burnouts by holding the brake and smashing the throttle?
Burnouts. Heel toe. Sitting at the light in neutral. Doesn't matter. No brake and gas at the same time

Maf should be here wensday. The anticipation is killing me haha
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No brake and gas at the same time

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I noticed that my 330 with the 6 speed swap (2003+, clutch with more splines) has a lot more responsive gas pedal than my friends '03 325i which has less splines. I assume the flywheel is lighter on my car so it makes rev matching a lot easier.

Yeah i notice sometimes i have to blip the throttle way more than i would expect to rev match too. I have a 98 Chevy 1500 and i can rev match with that thing like nobodys business
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Old 04-19-2017, 12:15 PM   #15
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It's the MAF. Let us know how it goes when you replace it.
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Exactly as the title states I can not heel-toe in my car. If I try to drag the brake st all while still on the gas it cuts throttle completely.

I did do some reading about it...found some cases were solved by simply plugging it back in from it being forgotten about. But the other case never said if it turned out to be a bad maf or not.

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you do have a manual transmission right
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you do have a manual transmission right
I mean, I can rev match my auto lol (manual dreamer). It just gets awkward when the car doesn't want to downshift and you expect the revs to climb but instead you gain momentum lol
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I mean, I can rev match my auto lol (manual dreamer). It just gets awkward when the car doesn't want to downshift and you expect the revs to climb but instead you gain momentum lol


How can you rev match a car when the engine and driveline are never disconnected? Rev matching by definition is manually synchronizing the engine and input shaft speed before clutch re-engagement.
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How can you rev match a car when the engine and driveline are never disconnected? Rev matching by definition is manually synchronizing the engine and input shaft speed before clutch re-engagement.
The gear changes are so outrageously long that when the car disengages a gear to select the lower one (in M mode), that you can blip the throttle and it'll actually select the gear quicker in most cases. Sometimes though if you blip, the auto doesn't know what's going on and chooses to let the revs fall to rev match itself or it cancels the shift altogether


But in the auto you can be braking and blip between gears, but it won't let anything aggressive happen

Edit: I can take a video of you want

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^I would love to see a video of this lol. When I had an auto it actually shifted quite quickly in manual mode. It was also very smooth unless in higher RPM


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